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http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-57367694-64/windows-8-stable-on-arm-going-to-developers-soon-say-sources/
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"The bigger implication is, with [Intel-based] ultrabooks you're popularizing the idea that you have this thinner design that turns on faster, that lasts longer [battery life]--but then you have Windows 8 on ARM that's built at a price point that's much lower. And does all of those things too.
Post 28 Jan 2012, 17:09
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Enko



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I'm not surprised, as win8 of what I could see on screenshots is almost designed for tablets. I guess microsoft got tired of androids everywhere.
Post 28 Jan 2012, 17:27
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I suspect that we're going to see WIndows 8 x edition (where x is the standard groups) and Windows 8 Mobile (basically, an updated windows CE) edition.
Post 28 Jan 2012, 18:21
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Most people can not see the wood for the trees, M$ have only one way in there minds as to how to dev for windows and thats html5 and java.
So the bottom line will be, if you want your apps to run on all m$ devices, they will need to be programmed in html5.

I will even go as far to say M$ as given up on OS Dev Shocked
Yes thats right, they have so many patents etc, they can make money in other ways like facebook or google.
I see windows switching to linux in the next 5-10 years.
Remember you heard it here first.
Post 28 Jan 2012, 21:37
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cvtss2sd



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Dex4u wrote:
Most people can not see the wood for the trees, M$ have only one way in there minds as to how to dev for windows and thats html5 and java.
So the bottom line will be, if you want your apps to run on all m$ devices, they will need to be programmed in html5.

I will even go as far to say M$ as given up on OS Dev Shocked
Yes thats right, they have so many patents etc, they can make money in other ways like facebook or google.
I see windows switching to linux in the next 5-10 years.
Remember you heard it here first.


The only problem i have with your train of thought is that HTML5 and JAVA are not MS' IPs.
Post 28 Jan 2012, 21:43
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I'm no Windows fanboy and barely use it and don't really like it much (esp. since no more decent DOS support, boo). But I think that's a bit of a drastic guess.

From what little I thought I had heard, the UI was partially going to be written in HTML 5 and Javascript (not Java). Yes, MS is heavily backing that now, somewhat, although neither has been finalized in any new standards lately. They are still supporting native apps and C++ but C# managed stuff too. There will be WinRT and Win32 for backwards compatibility.

It's true that I think it's a weird transition, and I'm not sure I agree with it, but whatever, it's their money / life / etc.
Post 16 Feb 2012, 21:31
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Dex4u wrote:

I see windows switching to linux in the next 5-10 years.
Remember you heard it here first.

Most likely BSD like Apple did, (they call it darwin, it's just a modified BSD). And when that day comes, windows might actually be worth something.

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Post 17 Feb 2012, 02:38
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Dex4u



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@rugxulo, Your right i ment to say Javascript.
@Coty, yes with its BSD license, it makes more sense.
Post 17 Feb 2012, 02:51
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Why on earth would Microsoft want to move Windows towards a BSD base?

The NT kernel is actually pretty decent, and there's been a lot of work on optimizing it from Vista through Win7 and Win8 - check some of the channel9 interviews with the kernel devs.

It's the Windows userland (especially the crufty Win32 API) that kinda sucks, and guess what - userland would have to be reinvented if they moved to a BSD core. The stuff available for BSD and Linux is mediocre at best, and one of the big reasons those platforms have so little market share... Apple have their own userland, but they've spend a loooooot of time polishing that.

Throwing away the good parts of Windows and getting pretty much nothing in return for it? Insanity Smile
Post 29 Feb 2012, 17:16
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Dex4u



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f0dder wrote:
Throwing away the good parts of Windows and getting pretty much nothing in return for it? Insanity Smile
Your seeing m$ as the old M$, which was to tie you to there OS, but the new m$ wants you to use html5 and java script to write your app.
This says to me, that in time you will not be tied to the OS, so m$ will use a bsd kernel and save them selfs billions Wink.

It simple, all open source will end up doing is saving big Co billions and devaluing coders. Crying or Very sad
Post 29 Feb 2012, 23:23
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