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rob.rice



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f0dder wrote:
It would be sad if they port linux, instead of designing something good. 70es-mentality monolithic junk, no thanks.


ben done for the xbox
http://www.xbox-linux.org/
Post 22 Apr 2005, 02:00
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f0dder



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It sorta makes sense for the x-box, since you get an okay piece of hardware pretty cheaply that way, and can use it to set up a server or whatever. But it'd be a shame for The Cell.
Post 22 Apr 2005, 09:31
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The cell became a real thing and it seems promising. Let's the port begin... altrough we need to wait still another year in order to test it. Smile

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050516/sfm178.html
Post 17 May 2005, 18:50
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MCD



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Good, so let's hope the upcoming PS3 games will use the Cell processor better/more than current PC 3D-games do with their 80x86 CPU - actually very little, most stuff is done by graphics card. The game logic, AI and usually poor physics don't require much CPU-power. I hope they will use the tremendous power of the Cell CPU to implement much more realistic physics - e.g. better collisions, dynamic systems acting on more global objects, solid/liquid state physics (like real time broken material fragment calculations etc. Twisted Evil) - all things where these 8 ultra fast vector FPUs may come in play...
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Look at this:
http://en.wikipedia.com/wiki/Cell_(microprocessor)

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Post 18 May 2005, 21:28
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IBM is planning on releasing the full specifications and software libraries for the powerful processor that will be in the Playstation 3. The goal is to stimulate open-source development for other applications of the chip.


Good news, the Cell is going to challenge x86 for sure Wink
And the opportunity to write small and efficient (assembly) applications from scratch.
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MCD



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pelaillo wrote:
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IBM is planning on releasing the full specifications and software libraries for the powerful processor that will be in the Playstation 3. The goal is to stimulate open-source development for other applications of the chip.


Good news, the Cell is going to challenge x86 for sure Wink
And the opportunity to write small and efficient (assembly) applications from scratch.

at least, 1 good news today Very Happy

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Post 25 May 2005, 11:12
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tom tobias



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pelaillo wrote:
"Good news, the Cell is going to challenge x86 for sure Wink
And the opportunity to write small and efficient (assembly) applications from scratch."
Thanks for the news Pelaillo, interesting if it materializes. IBM did an excellent job of documenting OS/2, and, for that matter, the original PC architecture. Yesterday, I read somewhere, sorry not to have the reference, that Apple is now planning to use Intel cpu's in its next generation of desktop computers. Maybe IBM and Apple have some discord over the plan of IBM to release publically the information required to attract software developers. Interesting, because, originally, i.e. ~28 years ago, the first Apple, i.e. Apple II, with an assembler written by Steve Wozniac, had TERRIFIC documentation. Ahh, the marketers. Well, simply glance at TMTA, transmeta, to find out what happens when companies try to keep things hidden from the public. TMTA is no longer the valid symbol for trading Transmeta stock. Now, one must use TMTAE, the E denoting delinquency in filing needed financial information. Next step: DELISTING from the stock exchange, --> OUT. I, for one, will not be sad to see them exit the cpu arena, since they refused to release the information needed to develop any application on their cpu. Still, the troubling question is this: Why would Apple turn to Intel for cpu support, rather than use the Cell created by its two partners, Motorola and IBM, if indeed the Cell really is superior to Intel's architecture? Maybe what I read was just malicious gossip.....regards, tom
Post 25 May 2005, 12:18
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pelaillo
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Why would Apple turn to Intel for cpu support

Maybe because nowadays the companies are aligning in two sides: BSA where patent enforcement and dumb users are the way and FLOSS, where openess and collaboration matters.
IBM is betting the whole house in the latter but Apple seems too interested in keeping their secrets.

Who is going to win this 'cold war'? difficult to predict, but maybe your example is a good answer: TMTAE
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YONG



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This thread deserves a proper burial:

End of the line for IBM's Cell

RIP

Wink
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