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Tomasz Grysztar 08 Mar 2010, 10:16
In texts like this one: http://board.flatassembler.net/topic.php?p=34035#34035
I explain how to derive everything from the fasm's manual. I was working on supplementary article called Understanding fasm that would do the same, but in a wider context - nevertheless even though I haven't finished it (yet?), the basic manual in general already contains the information required to deduce all those macro tricks. |
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alorent 08 Mar 2010, 12:46
ouadji,
I have the same feelings with macros. It's seems that only a few gurus know how to fully deal with them  I'm glad that they helps us
btw, are you a SyserDebugger developer? I'm just telling because of your footnote image |
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08 Mar 2010, 12:46 |
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ouadji 08 Mar 2010, 13:54
Quote: are you a SyserDebugger developer?
_________________ I am not young enough to know everything (Oscar Wilde)-  |
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zhak 08 Mar 2010, 14:00
ouadji wrote:
yeah, it was time long ago when softice ruled the universe, now syser reigns ) |
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08 Mar 2010, 14:00 |
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ouadji 08 Mar 2010, 15:00
there are still things to improve, But the latest version of syser works fine. Syser became as powerful as SoftIce, perhaps even more powerful. i use it every day, great fun and good work with it. _________________ I am not young enough to know everything (Oscar Wilde)- |
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alorent 09 Mar 2010, 13:25
ouadji wrote:
I used it long ago but had some incompatibility issues. Hope it would work for 64-bit applications. Any news if it will work for 64-bit applications? Anyway, we are going to get banned for going out of the topic  |
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09 Mar 2010, 13:25 |
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ouadji 09 Mar 2010, 14:26
Quote: I used it long ago but had some incompatibility issues. it has become much more stable and powerful. But only for 32bits debugging. Syser 64bits doesn't exist ... not yet. Quote: we are going to get banned for going out of the topic 
_________________ I am not young enough to know everything (Oscar Wilde)- |
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09 Mar 2010, 14:26 |
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edemko 09 Mar 2010, 15:19
As for me OllyDbg has overcome IDA and Syserr!
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09 Mar 2010, 15:19 |
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ouadji 09 Mar 2010, 16:08
Syser is a kernel debugger (like SoftIce), not Olly. (but obviously, it also works in user mode) me, without Syser, I can't live, I die in the next hour! _________________ I am not young enough to know everything (Oscar Wilde)- |
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09 Mar 2010, 16:08 |
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edemko 09 Mar 2010, 16:18
User mode: Olly.
Tastes differ like "Smoking differ" text placed on a drug picture. |
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09 Mar 2010, 16:18 |
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ouadji 09 Mar 2010, 16:24
"Tastes differ" In fact, to debug drivers, a kernel debugger is essential. Otherwise, Olly is a very good user mode debugger. _________________ I am not young enough to know everything (Oscar Wilde)- |
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09 Mar 2010, 16:24 |
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zhak 09 Mar 2010, 16:39
i wonder is .net programmers know that such tools exist... or they only use built-in VS debug... tried built-in borland delphi debugger about 5 or 6 yrs ago... oh, gosh! it was a horrible experience ) i wouldn't surprise if it's written (and the whole delphi) in... delphi ))
lol! just imagine... self-compiling delphi! or self-compiling .net! muhaha |
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09 Mar 2010, 16:39 |
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ouadji 09 Mar 2010, 17:06
For those who have never seen it, here is syser interface.  _________________ I am not young enough to know everything (Oscar Wilde)- |
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09 Mar 2010, 17:06 |
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alorent 09 Mar 2010, 21:36
Thanks ouadji. Looks a nice interface, better than Softice.
I'm been in the syser forum and seems a bit "dead"? The author doesn't seem to reply to all your questions  He doesn't deserve you as user! |
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09 Mar 2010, 21:36 |
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zhak 09 Mar 2010, 22:30
maybe he's just got too much to be done and have no time for chatting on the board
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09 Mar 2010, 22:30 |
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ouadji 10 Mar 2010, 00:08
Sorry for my english, i will try to do my best. The contacts are not always easy with syser developers . it's true that for about a month I can't have answers to my questions. In fact, I point out bugs and improvements. They have corrected several problems since the last 6 months. Sometimes, the contact is very easy, and sometimes it's deadly silence. What is surprising is how few people attending this forum. Yet, syser worth it really! The problem is that this program is hacked a lot, it's a pity. One day, the guy will have enough and he will discontinue this product. _________________ I am not young enough to know everything (Oscar Wilde)- |
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10 Mar 2010, 00:08 |
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zhak 10 Mar 2010, 09:01
they could make it FREE software from the very beginning. and there would be no need in waiting for support for several months. development could be much quicker with the help of community
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10 Mar 2010, 09:01 |
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zhak 10 Mar 2010, 09:02
possibly this topic should be changed to "chatting about syser" and moved to the heap already
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