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Coddy41

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Coddy41 21 Jan 2009, 14:12

Oh, yeah, I forgot Embarassed

Well ok 2k it is I'll add it to the rule page. Very Happy

ps I have to go to a school meeting so I wont be back for a few hours.

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21 Jan 2009, 14:12

shoorick

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shoorick 21 Jan 2009, 14:17

yes, i would like just to see size as power of 2 as represent in hardware Smile

21 Jan 2009, 14:17

Coddy41

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Coddy41 21 Jan 2009, 14:19

OK well use it Smile

somehow I just wana put 2.5k Smile

ps I have to go to a school meeting so I wont be back for a few hours.

21 Jan 2009, 14:19

revolution
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revolution 21 Jan 2009, 14:23

Coddy41 wrote:

ps I have to go to a school meeting so I wont be back for a few hours.

Sure, take your time. We'll all just be killing time waiting for you to come back.

Okay everybody, Coddy41 has left, now we can all be naughty until (s)he returns. When the cat is away the mice ...

21 Jan 2009, 14:23

Coddy41

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Coddy41 21 Jan 2009, 14:29

Im a guy, And I'm not gone yet. Laughing

21 Jan 2009, 14:29

revolution
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revolution 21 Jan 2009, 14:35

Coddy41 wrote:

I'm not gone yet.

Hey no fair, give us a chance to be naughty.

21 Jan 2009, 14:35

Coddy41

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Coddy41 21 Jan 2009, 19:43

revolution wrote:

Hey no fair, give us a chance to be naughty.

Lol

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21 Jan 2009, 19:43

geppy

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geppy 21 Jan 2009, 20:33

I take it any amount of RAM can be used by kernel and apps?

Does "OS" include bootloader or is it just a kernel image? Must OS be able to boot itself?

Is any filesystem(FAT16,ISO9660) required to be supported for boot media or it may be just 2KB 'raw write' at the beginning of floppy or CD?

Quote:

8. If you add an app it does not count on the 1.5kb but you will have a 10kb app limmit

You MAY
1.add extra programs like apps or games (these do not have a limit)

so whats the limit? if any
whats is considered 'app' in #8 and what is 'app' in #1

At first Ithought apps in #1 are tools to compile OS sources or write binary on disk but how come games here?

21 Jan 2009, 20:33

Coddy41

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Coddy41 21 Jan 2009, 20:44

geppy wrote:

I take it any amount of RAM can be used by kernel and apps?

It Goes by the size of the OS after compiled, You can have the OS any size before compiled.

geppy wrote:

Does "OS" include bootloader or is it just a kernel image? Must OS be able to boot itself?

You can use a self boot kernel or an extra boot loader file.

geppy wrote:

Is any filesystem(FAT16,ISO9660) required to be supported for boot media or it may be just 2KB 'raw write' at the beginning of floppy or CD?

The only thing that is required, is that it runs.

geppy wrote:

8. If you add an app it does not count on the 1.5kb but you will have a 10kb app limmit

You MAY
1.add extra programs like apps or games (these do not have a limit)

so whats the limit? if any
whats is considered 'app' in #8 and what is 'app' in #1

I probably should have explained more, You can add all the apps you want,
But in total The apps cannot exceed 10kb

geppy wrote:

At first Ithought apps in #1 are tools to compile OS sources or write binary on disk but how come games here?

You can add tools for burning the disk, but the apps im talking about are apps for the OS. (so its not plain like erm... notepad or a sidescroller use your amatination Smile

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21 Jan 2009, 20:44

geppy

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geppy 21 Jan 2009, 20:47

Coddy41 wrote:

geppy wrote:
I take it any amount of RAM can be used by kernel and apps?
It Goes by the size of the OS after compiled, You can have the OS any size before compiled.

so my 2kb compiled OS can safely use 4GB of RAM for its internal needs while the OS runs.

21 Jan 2009, 20:47

Coddy41

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Coddy41 21 Jan 2009, 20:52

geppy wrote:

so my 2kb compiled OS can safely use 4GB of RAM for its internal needs while the OS runs.

Use all the ram you need, but your 2k kernel could use 4g yes

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21 Jan 2009, 20:52

neville

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neville 21 Jan 2009, 21:10

Coddy41

How come your top 5 OS's go 5..4..3..4..1 ? Smile

Check out FAMOS - created with fasm, and now runs fasm natively as a component of the FAMOS IDE:

Latest versions of FAMOS:

FD image ver 1.14 'NZ panorama' (with fasm-based IDE):
http://w14.easy-share.com/1702201438.html
(left-click.... 767,136 bytes)

CD image ver 1.14 'NZ panorama' (with fasm-based IDE):
http://famos.zoomshare.com/files/FAMOS14C.ZIP
(right-click, Save as .... 930,286 bytes)

Yes, www.fa-mos.com kinda sux, but famos.zoomshare.com has some screenshots, CD content etc.

PS. were you late for the school meeting? Wink

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21 Jan 2009, 21:10

Coddy41

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Coddy41 21 Jan 2009, 21:20

neville wrote:

How come your top 5 OS's go 5..4..3..4..1 ?

ill have to chang that.

neville wrote:

Check out FAMOS - created with fasm, and now runs fasm natively as a component of the FAMOS IDE:

I'll try it.

neville wrote:

PS. were you late for the school meeting?

nope I was early Smile

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21 Jan 2009, 21:20

geppy

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geppy 21 Jan 2009, 21:33

What really bothers me with all these 'size limit' competitions is that there is not that much stuff you can put in there. And even if you can put something useful the features may be drastically different among different OSes. It becomes hard to choose objectively which one is best. Besides not that many people care about size including me.

Worth participating competition would be the one were we define features that need to be implemented and then during poll each user assigns a score from 0 to 100 to each of the 3 categories: smallest size, how well all features implemented, fastest/responsive on single selected CPU.

But if this current contest continues I'll probably be in.

21 Jan 2009, 21:33

vid
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vid 21 Jan 2009, 21:41

Quote:

What really bothers me with all these 'size limit' competitions is that there is not that much stuff you can put in there.

That's the point. to fit in as much functionality as possible into very little space. The competing part is not so important, no need to oversophisticate it.

21 Jan 2009, 21:41

Coddy41

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Coddy41 21 Jan 2009, 21:42

I only started it because competition pushes me to learn, and ive only been at
Os development for 2 1/2 months, I thought a small competition would push me to
learn harder. Besides I like makeing small OS's. Plus I like the idea, a small OS that can
Do alot is ausome.
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This Is going to be a bit harder than I thought when I first wrote the original
rules for this. I'm going to have to code a new kernel since my original code
was In C witch people were against Rolling Eyes

So you know.

But I do agree with VIP Smile

21 Jan 2009, 21:42

mikegonta

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mikegonta 21 Jan 2009, 23:13

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21 Jan 2009, 23:13

Coddy41

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Coddy41 21 Jan 2009, 23:18

Then I quit. All I wanted was a contest Sad

21 Jan 2009, 23:18

mikegonta

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mikegonta 21 Jan 2009, 23:24

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21 Jan 2009, 23:24

Coddy41

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Coddy41 21 Jan 2009, 23:28

No we already discussed the rules, The rules are as the contestants And I have put together.
I am not changing them just so I can enter.

21 Jan 2009, 23:28

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