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sinsi 26 Jan 2009, 11:09
nah, too juvenile...how old are you anyway spinner?
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revolution 26 Jan 2009, 11:11
I have a mental age of about 6. Does it show? I try my best to pretend I am 8.
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Coddy41 03 Feb 2009, 19:57
I really don't think revolution has a web site, But I do like the name FARTED. I should of thought of that.
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nop 07 Feb 2009, 02:55
hahahaha great flight simulater hahaha
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07 Feb 2009, 02:55 |
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Coddy41 07 Feb 2009, 09:21
OK
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07 Feb 2009, 09:21 |
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Coddy41 25 May 2009, 21:27
I know it has been around awhile since nop told me to try this, I was suprised after waiting so long when it said "welcome to FAMOS" and huh? it has my sound driver? what ever did happen to this OS?
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25 May 2009, 21:27 |
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Borsuc 25 May 2009, 23:41
Simple questions:
if FAMOS knows nothing of disks then how can it copy itself for long-term storage? Better yet, how can you save crucial data? Also you can make FreeDOS a memory operating system that also sees disks and can use them but doesn't need any, with "memdisk" and syslinux/siblo.  |
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25 May 2009, 23:41 |
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Coddy41 26 May 2009, 00:26
Borsuc wrote: Simple questions: ... It doesn't make sence does it  _________________ Want hosting for free for your asm project? You can PM me. (*.fasm4u.net) |
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26 May 2009, 00:26 |
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bitRAKE 26 May 2009, 01:04
Remember the C64 / Atari XE/XL anyone? Well, the way they worked was that the ROM booted right up to a prompt. Of course, storage could be used, but it wasn't needed: BASIC programs could be typed in directly and cartridges could be used. I'm guessing FAMOS could be put in on ROM and mapped/shadowed at boot up. Seems like more of a throw-back to an old design rather than a new thing to me. (Certainly nothing wrong with that. Disclaimer: I haven't tried FAMOS, but I have farted. My secret OS project is called DangerOS, lol.)
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26 May 2009, 01:04 |
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Borsuc 26 May 2009, 03:16
Yes that's a good OS but it has to KNOW about disks -- not for its operation (kernel, whatever) but for USING them for storage or whatever. The OS itself would be in memory, but not the let's say, FASM source code you're working on?
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26 May 2009, 03:16 |
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neville 27 May 2009, 03:10
Coddy41 wrote: I know it has been around awhile since nop told me to try this, I was suprised after waiting so long when it said "welcome to FAMOS" and huh? it has my sound driver? what ever did happen to this OS? I've been doing other things over the past few months and haven't touched FAMOS for a while... The latest CD version (1.14C) is available at http://famos.zoomshare.com/files/FAMOS14C.ZIP (908kb) Are you saying it took a long time to boot on your machine? Were you booting from CD or floppy? No, I don't have your sound driver. On boot-up FAMOS drives the "PC speaker" on ports 60h/61h. Your sound system successfully emulates the PC speaker  _________________ FAMOS - the first memory operating system |
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27 May 2009, 03:10 |
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neville 27 May 2009, 03:15
Borsuc wrote: Simple questions: FAMOS certainly DOES know about "disks", but it just doesn't need them. It accesses disks when required using its external Media Access utility. The Media Access utility currently supports: - FAT FDD's/HDD's - ISO9660 CD's - USB1.1 pendrives The only way to make any DOS including FreeDOS into a memory OS would be to re-write it from scratch! _________________ FAMOS - the first memory operating system |
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27 May 2009, 03:15 |
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Borsuc 27 May 2009, 03:33
Ah that makes much more sense, and yes that is a cool concept.
neville wrote: The only way to make any DOS including FreeDOS into a memory OS would be to re-write it from scratch! It will be in a "ramdrive", in memory. You can unplug booting device after it loads and it will work, provided you put enough tools on that image obviously. It is somewhat emulation via interrupts, but it is similar, if less optimized, in principle _________________ Previously known as The_Grey_Beast |
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27 May 2009, 03:33 |
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Coddy41 27 May 2009, 22:59
neville wrote: I've been doing other things over the past few months and haven't touched FAMOS for a while... The latest CD version (1.14C) is available at http://famos.zoomshare.com/files/FAMOS14C.ZIP (908kb) Cool, I will check it out. neville wrote:
Floppy, I do not like to use CD's for testing something I may/may not like, and it is also probibly the fact that my testing machine has an 266Mhz proseser and 64MB ram. neville wrote:
That is pretty smart I must admit, I would have never thought of that.... though.... it is a great Idea  _________________ Want hosting for free for your asm project? You can PM me. (*.fasm4u.net) |
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27 May 2009, 22:59 |
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neville 28 May 2009, 01:04
@Borsuc:
In a nutshell, FAMOS uses RAM for the same purpose that other OS's use disks - to hold applications and data for use as and when required. So instead of waiting several milliseconds for a disk to spin to the right place everytime it wants to access something, it just addresses the required (physical!) address space in a few nanoseconds. Because RAM is volatile, FAMOS must still access disks for long-term mass storage purposes only (and for initial booting, but yes a ROM version will be feasible). In FAMOS, the concept of a "ramdisk" would be particularly pointless! _________________ FAMOS - the first memory operating system |
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28 May 2009, 01:04 |
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neville 28 May 2009, 01:09
@Coddy41:
Thanks Given the specs of your test PC, maybe FAMOS drove your actual PC speaker
BTW, booting from CD is the same as booting from a floppy, because the BIOS just treats the CD like a "big floppy", usually limited in size to the first 18Mbytes of the CD. _________________ FAMOS - the first memory operating system |
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28 May 2009, 01:09 |
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Borsuc 28 May 2009, 01:30
neville wrote: In a nutshell, FAMOS uses RAM for the same purpose that other OS's use disks - to hold applications and data for use as and when required.
Of course a "ramdisk" only applies to an OS that uses disks, but has to be 'emulated virtually' to use memory. This is of course less efficient than an OS specifically done to use memory like FAMOS, i only mentioned that it is possible with FreeDOS, but it wasn't necessarily made for that. Your OS seems interesting, if you could make it good for recovery I would be very tempted to put it on my recovery USB stick
the problem with most is the lack of proper drivers... how much I hate that myself (drivers), why isn't everything so easy _________________ Previously known as The_Grey_Beast |
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28 May 2009, 01:30 |
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Coddy41 28 May 2009, 16:35
neville wrote: @Coddy41: It did drive my actual speaker, my testing machine is an old Toshiba laptop. (I took it apart there is no beep speaker, just main speakers) If you want more computers specs on some of my computers I will be happy to give them to you. neville wrote:
is it emulating? _________________ Want hosting for free for your asm project? You can PM me. (*.fasm4u.net) |
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28 May 2009, 16:35 |
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neville 29 May 2009, 05:07
Coddy41 wrote: is it emulating? Yes that's right, floppy emulation! _________________ FAMOS - the first memory operating system |
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