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msschlt



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msschlt 13 Sep 2008, 22:54
I have a question/problem:

movzx rax, byte [rsi] ;(work)
movzx rax, word [rsi] ;(works)
movzx rax, dword [rsi] ;(failed)

Failed with Error: invalid size of operand.
(FAsm 1.67.27 13 July 2008)

I don't understand.. IMHO this should work.
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revolution
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revolution 13 Sep 2008, 23:39
Code:
mov eax,dword[rsi]    
The zero extension is automatically applied to all 32bit destination register operands in 64bit mode.


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msschlt



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msschlt 13 Sep 2008, 23:43
Ah, ok.. thx Smile
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vid
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vid 14 Sep 2008, 00:56
in case you missed it: "rax" is 64bits = qword, not dword.
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Xorpd!



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Xorpd! 14 Sep 2008, 06:14
movzx rax, dword[rsi] is not encodable but there are a couple of variations:
Code:
C:\Asm\FASM\EXAMPLES\WIN64\my_example>link /dump /disasm movzx.obj
Microsoft (R) COFF/PE Dumper Version 8.00.50727.363
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation.  All rights reserved.


Dump of file movzx.obj

File Type: COFF OBJECT

_main:
  0000000000000000: 63 06              movsxd      eax,dword ptr [rsi]
  0000000000000002: 8B 06              mov         eax,dword ptr [rsi]
  0000000000000004: C3                 ret

  Summary

           5 CODE
    

fasm doesn't permit the former encoding. It would be an interesting feature to permit all possible encodings, and in this case it can make a difference because the two operations do in fact use different pipelines on some processors, but it has been considered too much work for too little return to implement alternate encodings like this.
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msschlt



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msschlt 14 Sep 2008, 07:47
vid wrote:
in case you missed it: "rax" is 64bits = qword, not dword.
I know "rax" is a 64bit. Wink

I want to mov with zero-ext. and zero the high 32bit.
Like e.g. movzx eax, word [esi] in 32bit.

But it's exactly like revolution says.

mov eax, [rsi]

..in 64bit mode, it kills the high 32bit autom.
I had thought the high 32bit remain unchanged.

Ok, stupid question..
Is there a way to mov without loosing the high 32bit in 64bit mode?
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Xorpd!



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Xorpd! 14 Sep 2008, 08:05
Quote:

Is there a way to mov without loosing the high 32bit in 64bit mode?

Assuming you want to copy ebx into eax and don't care if you destroy rcx, the sequence
Code:
mov  rcx, rax
xor  eax, ebx
xor  rax, rcx
    

should do the trick.
Alternative:
Code:
shrd rax, rbx, 32
ror  rax, 32
    
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msschlt



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msschlt 14 Sep 2008, 08:09
Xorpd! wrote:

should do the trick.
Alternative:
Code:
shrd rax, rbx, 32
ror  rax, 32
    
Nice trick. Wink
Thank you Xorpd!
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