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revolution wrote:
Yeah I know, but what is the number you are describing?
very huge, close to +oo Wink
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The_Grey_Beast wrote:
revolution wrote:
Yeah I know, but what is the number you are describing?
very huge, close to +oo Wink
Exactly, just like a limit, but not big enough. Already larger values supplied. Close to infinity is not good enough, and infinity is not a number so that also doesn't count.
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...but 1/(0+) is defined - it just isn't a specific number.

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9^^googol

using tetration
and ASCII notation a^^b. Since the up-arrow is used identically to the caret (^), the tetration operator may be written as (^^).

is there something bigger than this shit Razz ?
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asmhack wrote:
9^^googol
Okay, accept, but it is tiny. already MUCH larger numbers posted.
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tiny ? that's infinite..

Image
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It's not infinite, it is tiny compared to other numbers. Number size is relative, normally that would be considered large, but here it is very tiny.
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you will drive me crazy.. Razz tell the answer then if there is something bigger than that.. (with proof). Twisted Evil
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The current best posted here so far is:

Aleph-Z$$ (with Z being allowed in base 36)

Already MUCH bigger than 9^^googol.
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revolution wrote:
The current best posted here so far is:

Aleph-Z$$ (with Z being allowed in base 36)

Already MUCH bigger than 9^^googol.


aleph is not a number.. it is just a set of all numbers like natural and such..
it is not constant and since that it is not a number..

plus it has a symbol Image...
not even ascii but unicode


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The current top ten:
Code:
10.       9$$$$$$$$       bitRAKE
 9.  9($^9$$$)       Tomasz Grysztar
 8.  G($^G$$$)       Tomasz Grysztar (belatedly accepted)
 7.     BB(BB(9))       Tomasz Grysztar
 6.  (BB^9)(9)       Tomasz Grysztar (belatedly accepted)
 5.     Aleph-0         MHajduk
 4.  Beth two        victor
 3.   Aleph-9$$       Tomasz Grysztar
 2.  Aleph-F$$       MHajduk
 1.  Aleph-Z$$       MHajduk    
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asmhack wrote:
aleph is not a number..
I used to think that also, but the professional mathematicians are quite sure that it is a number and I am in no position to argue since I don't know anything about maths.
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it is just set of numbers..
how a number can include other numbers.. ?
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surreal number?

{Aleph-Z|}

darn, 10 characters

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asmhack wrote:
it is just set of numbers..
how a number can include other numbers.. ?
Okay, I don't know the answer to that.

But how about this:

We split it into two parts.

One part is for the mathematically accepted concept of Aleph-type things being numbers and another part for the non-Aleph-allowed numbers.

So the list splits into two:
Code:
non-Aleph:
5.   9$$$$$$$$       bitRAKE
4.   9($^9$$$)       Tomasz Grysztar
3.   G($^G$$$)       Tomasz Grysztar (belatedly accepted)
2.      BB(BB(9))       Tomasz Grysztar
1.   (BB^9)(9)       Tomasz Grysztar (belatedly accepted)

Purely mathematical:
5.      Aleph-0         MHajduk
4.   Beth two        victor
3.    Aleph-9$$       Tomasz Grysztar
2.   Aleph-F$$       MHajduk
1.   Aleph-Z$$       MHajduk    
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{Beth-Z|}, only Beth-Z+1 :/

Beth-Z$$$

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Crying or Very sad
i'm not classed... Crying or Very sad
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privalov what is the y for BB(x) ?? just courius.. Confused
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bitRAKE wrote:
{Beth-Z|}, only Beth-Z+1 :/
Yes, I'm glad you spotted that.
bitRAKE wrote:
Beth-Z$$$
A new leader.

Can anyone do better?
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revolution wrote:
Alright, I may have misunderstood, but it seems you are trying to say that what ever number I can write there is always a larger number. Is that correct?
Yes, in quantification notation
n: ∀k n>k
means "Number n: for any number k n>k."


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