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l4m2

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l4m2
revolution wrote:
If you read this whole thread you will see that people defining their own terms was not permitted. This if for the exact reason you mention, because any arbitrary definition could be anything, which would make the whole thing boring.

So what you give is not an example
12 Feb 2015, 12:27
revolution
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What did I give?

An example of what? Do you have a quote to show what you are referring to?
12 Feb 2015, 12:30
l4m2

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l4m2
revolution wrote:
What did I give?

An example of what? Do you have a quote to show what you are referring to?
This was already tried in a variant form by Goplat. And it was subsequently shown to be unworkable and thus disall

these
12 Feb 2015, 14:05
revolution
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revolution
You are welcome to submit an answer using established external definitions, and according to the restrictions imposed by the first post, and any subsequent restrictions and conditions that were made as this topic evolved.
12 Feb 2015, 14:12
l4m2

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so where is9 [9[9]9]9
25 Feb 2015, 18:37
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l4m2 wrote:
so where is9 [9[9]9]9
So what is 9[9[9]9]9?
26 Feb 2015, 01:19
l4m2

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revolution wrote:
l4m2 wrote:
so where is9 [9[9]9]9
So what is 9[9[9]9]9?
a[n+1]b=a[n]a[n]a[n]a(b a's)
a[0]b=a+1
26 Feb 2015, 15:41
revolution
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What is that called? Do you have a link?
26 Feb 2015, 15:46

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1*1*1*1*∞

(you not said it must be a real number)
26 Feb 2015, 15:52
revolution
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But I did disallow characters above 0x7e so ∞ is not allowed.
26 Feb 2015, 16:08
l4m2

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revolution wrote:
What is that called? Do you have a link?
I saw it not in English
26 Feb 2015, 19:25
tthsqe

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come an gals, this thread is a joke until revolution specifies a model of computation.
Quote:
You are allowed a maximum of nine ASCII characters (0x20-0x7e) only, this includes spaces and brackets etc., to write a representation of a number.

All standard mathematical symbols and functions etc. are allowed.

is not specific enough.
26 Feb 2015, 20:36
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26 Feb 2015, 21:36
revolution
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tthsqe wrote:
come an gals, this thread is a joke until revolution specifies a model of computation.
27 Feb 2015, 00:17
l4m2

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Quote:
Goodstein cows cattle here. He defines Goodstein notation G (n, a, b), to represent the n-th stage processing between a and b. When n = 0, the predetermined G (0, a, b) = b + 1. In other words, the first zero-level operation is a unary - natural number successor. When n = 1, a predetermined boundary value G (1, a, 0) = a, and a predetermined G (1, a, b) indicates to G (1, a, 0) to the previous values ​​in operation (subsequent operations ), and iterative b times, the result is a plus b. ⼀ camel, are:

G (n, a, b) = G (n - 1, a, G (n, a, b - 1))

Where the boundary value

G (1, a, 0) = a
G (2, a, 0) = 0
G (3, a, 0) = 1
G (4, a, 0) = 1
G (5, a, 0) = 1
...

This formally gives the meaning of the n-stage operation.

Something similar has been raised more than once. Two years ago, we introduced the world to the largest number, at the time used the Knuth arrow mark. This is also a way to represent large numbers, their thoughts and Goodstein mark almost exactly the same. Ackermann function is also a function of rapid growth, its definition is also similar. Math Forum is a lot of foreign language with a [n] b to represent the n-stage operation between a and b, is a symbol of my favorite.

Of course, there is a [n] b, there must be a [a [n] b] b, which in turn will have a [a [a [n] b] b] b ⋯⋯ no maximum number, only the larger number. The human brain and mathematics are two magical things, nothing big to count the human brain can not think, there is no large number of mathematical representation does not come out. Just imagine the brain 100 [100] 100, your mind is already beyond the size of the entire universe.
27 Feb 2015, 02:22
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27 Feb 2015, 02:31
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27 Feb 2015, 02:52
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revolution wrote:
tthsqe wrote:
come an gals, this thread is a joke until revolution specifies a model of computation.

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27 Feb 2015, 03:30
revolution
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She is teaching us to multiply. A model of computing indeed.

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27 Feb 2015, 03:38
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I don't want to read all 20 pages of this thread, can someone short line the rules for me? This sounds like fun evening time after-scotch contemplating material, and from recent posts I gather the rules have changed and/or are incomplete.
27 Feb 2015, 06:54
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