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tom tobias 26 Dec 2007, 20:09
vid wrote: ...But, still, i'd prefer safe OS that fixes all known problems. The more complicated the operating system, the more likely attacks will occur. This is somewhat similar to Moore's law.... My only disagreements with Dex, concern his preference for DOS compatibility, which I don't require, and his support for the (logical) method of going back and forth between real mode and protected mode to access hardware. To paraphrase the real estate folks: Simplicity, simplicity, simplicity. ![]() |
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Dex4u 26 Dec 2007, 21:14
@vid, revolution, Do not get me wrong, i for one am not saying that desktop OS should be designed this way.
My point is from a hobby OS design point of view, which should be designed to take advantage of the small number of user and special useage. Too many hobby OS try and copy the desktop OS, coding stuff that not only gets in the way of the programmer and slow execution of programs, but will nether be tested, these extra layers take time to implement, which in the long term, you end up with lots of half finish hobby OS. @tom tobias, I am not sure where you get the idea of me wanting Dos compatibility in my OS or design, as i have never included it into DexOS. I have for MiniDos but then it a Dos clone. Also going to and from real mode is just a simple method of fixing a problem that works, If there was a simple method that worked as good i would use it. We as hobby OS Dev have to make choosers, eg: how to change video modes, do we: 1. Stay in the same mode ? (most people would like to change modes) 2. Write drivers for all the graphic cards? (most do not release spec's ) 3. Implement a v86? ( i was planing on coding one, but 4. option work so well, i nether did ) 4. Go to and from real mode? ( easy to implement and work great ) |
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vid 26 Dec 2007, 21:40
Dex: agree on hobby OSes, if they have some use, it's not in desktop OS area.
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DOS386 26 Dec 2007, 21:54
vid wrote: ok, if safe OS is badly designed, then it is harder to overcome bad design than in unsafe OS. But still, i'd prefer safe OS that fixes all known problems. If someone comes in with a hammer then the "safest" most ultraparanoid crippled "desktop" OS possibly won't save you from buying a new PC ![]() And, DexOS doesn't have any DOS compatibility, it just has DOS design ![]() _________________ Bug Nr.: 12345 Title: Hello World program compiles to 100 KB !!! Status: Closed: NOT a Bug |
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vid 26 Dec 2007, 22:11
Quote: If someone comes in with a hammer then the "safest" most ultraparanoid crippled "desktop" OS possibly won't save you from buying a new PC Great argument not to fix bugs. I bet you 'd be delighted if MS used same argument instead of bugfixing. Dex: As I said, i meant this only for desktop OSes. I agree that for hobby OSes, switching to RM can be fine. |
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dosin 27 Dec 2007, 07:44
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DOS386 28 Dec 2007, 00:41
> be delighted if MS used same argument instead of bugfixing.
YES. > The funny thing is XP allowed it! I still prefer to decide myself what OS'es I install, what files I download or what multimedia I play ... and to who I boast with it (instead of "background calling home feature"). Download now: DOS VESA (doesn't compile with FASM ![]() |
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