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cmdtower

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cmdtower 22 Sep 2007, 19:48

Greetings,

I am finishing the beta release of ManaIDE. It's goal is to increase the productivity of writing assembly code specifically for FASM. The underbelly is nearly complete. The front end is a little too immature for any screenshots.

Seeking a permanent free (ideally) place for easy access for all, where this can be hosted. Any ideas? I've sent a message to Tomasz requesting a subdomain under flatassembler.net (the most sensible solution).

Once I can get this issue out of the way, ManaIDE will be ready for release ala 1.00b shortly thereafter.

Thanks.

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22 Sep 2007, 19:48

vid
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vid 22 Sep 2007, 21:29

i believe most people would like to see it before offering to host it. My advice is to release some example version, best with sources.

22 Sep 2007, 21:29

cmdtower

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cmdtower 22 Sep 2007, 22:02

Sure.
Where can I release it?

22 Sep 2007, 22:02

OzzY

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OzzY 23 Sep 2007, 03:47

If it's opensource there's always sourceforge.net for hosting.
You can post it at the projects and ideas section of the message board.

Even if it's not finished a screenshot or drawings of your ideas would be great.

23 Sep 2007, 03:47

vid
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vid 23 Sep 2007, 09:02

you can send it by email to me, i will upload it temporarily somewhere

23 Sep 2007, 09:02

cmdtower

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cmdtower 24 Sep 2007, 09:59

Thanks for your assistance guys! That's great. Smile

I've been trying to bust it out this weekend. It's coming together. I've cut alot of features (to be added later), to get it done for an initial stable release (beta of course). I'm having a blast doing it.

Here are some screenshots (attached):

The frontend is not much to look at so far... It's really gonna be a suped up version of Tomasz' FASMW. The real interesting stuff will be what's (eventually) on the right panel (which is empty currently).

Fyi. It was not written in Fasm (unfortunately), but in Delphi (pascal).

CMD

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Description:	Selecting some text (with syntax highlighting). The selection method is similar to Borland's IDE (ala Delphi), which is better than Richedit controls (in my opinion). :)
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24 Sep 2007, 09:59

vid
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vid 24 Sep 2007, 11:17

Looks nice. I think Delphi is a good choice for "windowy" win32 application.

One thing you could add, that i haven't seen in pics: working directory and command line arguments when running compiled executable.

Send me the application when you have it in some "presentable" state, and we'll see what we can do Smile

24 Sep 2007, 11:17

cmdtower

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cmdtower 24 Sep 2007, 11:37

Both of your suggestions are great points! I seemed to have forgotten both of those. lol.

Stay tuned. I'll be dormant for a few more days on this.

Thanks for your assistance Very Happy

Cheers,
CMD

24 Sep 2007, 11:37

Enko

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Enko 24 Sep 2007, 21:47

It will be great if you add :
* Graphical Resource Editing tool. Smile

*Some plugin engine.
*Code completition

If you manage to do this, it will become the best fasm editor ever.
I like the style.!!!! Very good work.

24 Sep 2007, 21:47

vid
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vid 24 Sep 2007, 21:59

Enko: code completion for asm???

24 Sep 2007, 21:59

Enko

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Enko 24 Sep 2007, 22:37

For WinApi functions or any other library.
I think I was wrong. It's not called code completition, maybe "code param"?
I mean the Little window that shows the parameters name for a function.
If I write CreateWindow, it will show:

Quote:

lpWindowName, style, x, y, Width, Height, hwndParent, hMenu, hInstance, lpParam

24 Sep 2007, 22:37

Aux

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Aux 25 Sep 2007, 07:18

Just like RadASM do. Author of ManaIDE should look at RadASM - there are a lot of good ideas and functions inside!

25 Sep 2007, 07:18

Mac2004

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Mac2004 25 Sep 2007, 15:23

cmdtower: Have you relesed the ManaIDE yet??

regards,
Mac2004

25 Sep 2007, 15:23

cmdtower

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cmdtower 25 Sep 2007, 19:23

Mac2004,

Not yet! I am kinda busy at my day job. It's coming along nicely tho. I appreciate your guys patience. Smile

The expected release date is going to be the 27th or 28th ala 1.00 beta. It should be reasonably stable. The interface is simple enough, that I've skipped any kind of extensive documentation and/or help file.

Enko: You were initially correct, it's called Code completion.

There are stated goals (within the about box section for all to read) that describes in more detail what my intentions are.

Cheers,
CMD

25 Sep 2007, 19:23

cmdtower

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cmdtower 26 Sep 2007, 05:27

Okay, I've checked out RadASM. Pretty nice! However, it seems to be heavily geared towards writing Windows applications via MASM32. Which is interesting; but different than what I envisioned for ManaIDE. It's already been stated that ManaIDE is Fasm specific, but I also wanted an IDE that would help/assist the fasm community (and myself) in writing x86 assembler code faster/better. I also wanted a more user friendly experience, similar to what I get when I use Delphi, or perhaps even Visual Studio. When any of write asm code, we spend most of our time with that code (not form design, resource mgmt, etc) and that's where ManaIDE comes in. The future awaits, so there's plenty of time to accomodate everyone's wishlist (within reason??). Smile

Cheers,
CMD

26 Sep 2007, 05:27

Mac2004

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Mac2004 26 Sep 2007, 17:46

Quote:

The future awaits, so there's plenty of time to accomodate everyone's wishlist (within reason??). Smile

Nice to hear that! Smile

regards,
Mac2004

26 Sep 2007, 17:46

Enko

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Enko 26 Sep 2007, 19:32

Quote:

I also wanted a more user friendly experience, similar to what I get when I use Delphi, or perhaps even Visual Studio.

The same opinion. I used Delphi 7 and Visual Studio and the both enviroments are very familiar.
RadAsm is very heavy, bad redistributed. (Actually I'm using CrimsonEditor).

I almost forgot, is it very dificult to add "Code Blocks". I mean:

Code:

proc MyProc, param1,param2,param3
      mov eax,ebx
      add eax, [param1]
      etc............
      ret
endp

This code transforms into

Code:

[+] proc MyProc,param1,param2,param3

Just like Visual Studio does and Notepad++.

26 Sep 2007, 19:32

shoorick

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shoorick 27 Sep 2007, 05:09

try winasm studio - it is built also for masm32, but fasm add-in intercepts a lot and supports full cycle to build applications with fasm, including using external tools to scan sources for API to build exact import and converting dialogs from rc to fasm format. any trouble with running - post question there: http://board.flatassembler.net/topic.php?t=3167 - i will help you.

27 Sep 2007, 05:09

cmdtower

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cmdtower 28 Sep 2007, 07:12

Hi,

Update: The initial release of ManaIDE is ~ 90% complete. I have work tomorrow, so it'll be pushed out for arrival another couples day or so. I can hardly wait until I finish this and show you guys! Thanks for the reply, shoorick. I checked out winasm studio - again it's a really good editor. ManaIDE is not trying to compete against any of these other development editors. My goal is very specific, and by version 1.2/1.3 or so - you will see things that you've never seen before in any asm style editor (that i'm aware of). Very Happy

This is a really fun project, and do hope someone enjoys it (and uses it..).

Cheers,
CMD

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28 Sep 2007, 07:12

cmdtower

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cmdtower 30 Sep 2007, 02:54

I sent Vid (he asked Very Happy

) a prebeta for testing and preliminary eval.
-CMD

30 Sep 2007, 02:54

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