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Honk



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Honk 29 Aug 2007, 10:39
Hi folks,

i tried to assemble a bigger project, that contains the line "mov dl, byte es:[di]" - FASM puts out an "invalid operand size" error. I've no idea why; TASM doesn't complain and my old Assembly Language books don't mention that this isn't x86 compatible.


Any ideas ?

Btw. does FASM for DOS support something like "GROUP" and "ASSUME" ?

So long

Honk
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DOS386



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DOS386 29 Aug 2007, 11:18
Welcome to FASM Smile

Code:
mov dl, byte es:[di] ; BUG Sad
    


Code:
mov dl,[es:di] ; Correct (byte is unnecessary and optional) Wink
    


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I've no idea why


FASM<>TASM (coming from C ? FASM !=TASM Laughing )

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TASM doesn't complain and my old Assembly Language books don't mention that this isn't x86 compatible.


OLD means crap when dealing with x86 ASM syntax Shocked

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does FASM for DOS support something like "GROUP" and "ASSUME"


NO. Useless. Sad

MUST read: http://flatassembler.net/docs.php?article=design

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Bug Nr.: 12345

Title: Hello World program compiles to 100 KB !!!

Status: Closed: NOT a Bug
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rugxulo



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rugxulo 30 Aug 2007, 03:22
Yeah, old TASM code is a PITA (i.e. pain) to get working with other assemblers. Actually, even though I love FASM, you may have better luck with ArrowASM (MASM 3.0) or OpenWatcom's WASM (MASM subset, doubtful) or LazyASM (Ideal only, case sensitive). Good luck!
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Honk



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Honk 30 Aug 2007, 09:00
Hi,

yeah, I am an oldschool TASM Coder Cool .. but my actual project aims the usage of FASM as OpenWatcom Backend for DOS (for 4k-Dos-Intro Szene coding).

And .. it worked ! 'Cause OpenWatcom links a lot of unnecessary stuff to it's executables and FASM creates such beautiful small EXEFiles, I gave it a try.

The OpenWatcom Compiler & Linker created a (UPX Packed) 9 kb EXE (no extern libraries, everything stripped) - with FASM as Backend I got a 2,3 kb (UPX) File of the same source .. of course I don't use the standard libraries for my projects.

So long

Honk
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rugxulo



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rugxulo 31 Aug 2007, 04:31
Honk, in case you're using an older version (and would be willing to freely upgrade), OpenWatcom 1.7 has just been released recently. Smile
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Honk



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Honk 31 Aug 2007, 13:31
Hi,

rugxulo wrote:
Honk, in case you're using an older version (and would be willing to freely upgrade), OpenWatcom 1.7 has just been released recently. Smile


I'm using Openwatcom 1.6 (after a lot of tests the best available C/C++ Compiler for DOS Develpment 'cause of its actuality) - I don't think that much changed in ver1.7. .. the size of created binaries is quite well, the smallest of all tested C Compilers for DOS, but not small enough for Intro Coding. If you watch the assembly file, you see a lot of functions like "__u4m", "__chp" etc. that are unnecassary or don't have any influence to the runtime (i replaced them with "retn"-instructions). And if using floats (even if not the math.lib) every C Compiler seems to link against a math runtime (_fltused) - which is discussed in different Kernel-developer threads ..
I have no idea why, but if stripped, everything works still fine and you got the small executables that can be used in 4kb Intros ...

So long

Honk
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rugxulo



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rugxulo 07 Oct 2007, 03:14
Actually, no, there are (16-bit, at least) DOS C compilers that output smaller than OpenWatcom: Turbo C, Desmet C, Micro C, Dev86, Small C (depending on what you want to do, they are not all ANSI compatible). See here.
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