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ManOfSteel



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Hello,

I noticed that Win98SE has a problem with rebooting on some computers. Sometimes it just waits endlessly and never reboots the computer when using the 'Start > Shut Down > Restart' method or the ExitWindowsEx API, while it always works with the double CTRL+ALT+DEL method.

So I would like to know what's the software difference between the two methods and if it's possible to write a program that would do the same as the double CTRL+ALT+DEL method.

Thank you in advance.
Post 14 Aug 2007, 17:24
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f0dder



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ctrl+alt+del is a pretty harsh way of rebooting, which doesn't give applications a chance to shut down correctly etc. - it shouldn't only be used as a last resort.

Win9x is full of flaws, and there are several related to shutdown... like not being able to do ACPI poweroff but only showing the "it's now safe to turn off your computer" etc.
Post 15 Aug 2007, 11:36
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Yardman



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Post 15 Aug 2007, 12:19
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ManOfSteel



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@f0dder
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ctrl+alt+del is a pretty harsh way of rebooting, which doesn't give applications a chance to shut down correctly etc. - it shouldn't only be used as a last resort.

No problem since it would only be used to restart the computer after all 'foreground' programs have been closed and all unsaved data has been saved. And it is the last resort since all other ways have failed.

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Win9x is full of flaws, and there are several related to shutdown... like not being able to do ACPI poweroff but only showing the "it's now safe to turn off your computer" etc.

Crappy I know. But what's incredible here is that the problem appeared when I reinstalled Windows. It was working fine before and it's the exact same version I've reinstalled.

@Yardman
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Are you using EWX_FORCE with ExitWindowsEx?

yes, I am. But this is not the problem. Windows is already showing the restart screen when it stops responding, so obviously all applications are already terminated.

@NTOSKRNL_VXE
Yeah, I saw that one coming! A little bit harsh, but I guess it's the only way. Thanks.
Post 16 Aug 2007, 09:38
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f0dder



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ManOfSteel wrote:

Crappy I know. But what's incredible here is that the problem appeared when I reinstalled Windows. It was working fine before and it's the exact same version I've reinstalled.

Win9x works in mysterious ways Smile

Perhaps you've modified APM/ACPI settings in BIOS between last install and the reinstall?
Post 16 Aug 2007, 12:50
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ManOfSteel



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I set BIOS settings when I first get a new computer. I rarely change them later. And the shutdown and suspend processes also use ACPI (don't they?) and they're working fine.
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sinsi



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I remember win98 had a problem with shutdown/reboot when a lot of network drives were mapped...
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