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Borsuc



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This is bullshit, I had a hard disk with 80 GB with FAT32 and it worked perfectly, how can it be limited to 32GB? I was planning on getting some flash drives and formatting them in FAT32 but is it truly limited to 32GB for some obscure reasons?

And I don't suffer from power shortages anyway since I have an UPS so that extra security point isn't really valid for me Wink

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DOS386



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> macrosoft official releases exFAT support for windows xp (need sp2 or sp3)
> http://support.macrosoft.com/kb/955704

Couldn't resist to bump exactly 1/2 year old thread Laughing Let us know when you have a full specification of the "technology" + FASM code Shocked

> i been waiting from 12 Aug 2007... almost a year + half.

I don't prefer waiting ... better working on my own FS now. Idea

Azu wrote:
IIRC windows can only handle FSs that are proprietary and undocumented, or slow, though


Let's ban the stuff Laughing

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I thought we were talking about DOGs not DOSs..


Right Laughing
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DOS386 wrote:

Let us know when you have a full specification of the "technology" + FASM code Shocked


Apparently, some Linuxers haven't waited too long to start working (read-only support for now):

http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/linux/kernel/1026144

DOS386 wrote:

Azu wrote:
I thought we were talking about DOGs not DOSs..


Right Laughing


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Azu



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Post 19 Feb 2009, 07:28
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> Apparently, some Linuxers haven't waited too long to start working

Thanks to spinflipper4 at yahoo and Laaca ... 2 forums were not enough Laughing And, except that it's programming language patch instead FASM and has no spec ... did you ( or Laaca ) study the stuff before boasting ?
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i also had installed w2k with ntfs on 486 after some collisions with w98 and loosing data on fat32 - i much prefer stability then interface speed
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rugxulo: I wouldn't use NTFS for a 4GB usb pen... right filesystem for the job, etc... which certainly also means I wouldn't use any form of FAT for a modern harddrive.

Azu: it's too bad nobody has ported XFS (or ZFS) to Windows... it's possible to do so, though, and ext2 has already been ported (although I dunno if the project is still active). Wouldn't use Reiser after Hans was convicted, though - the future of that filesystem is just too uncertain, and with zfs, ext4 and btrfs coming up, well...
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Borsuc



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f0dder, you are more knowledgeable into this Windows stuff, and since you haven't answered my question, I'll form it easier:

Can I use FAT32 on flash drives > 32 GB?

The reason I think it's bullshit not to is because I personally had an 80GB hard drive a while back and it was working perfectly with FAT32. If not it's another one of MS's total failures.

BTW of course Windows XP not Vista. Thanks.

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Borsuc: Yes you can, but you will need an external tool to initially format the drive. It has been discussed here before also. There are a few freely available tools for you download that will do the format for you. Sorry, I can't remember the name right now, but a bit of searching should reveal a suitable candidate tool. Good luck.
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Oh yes that must have been it then, so it's only the crappy Windows that can't format one, but it can use it after it's formatted?

Thanks. Smile
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It is only for initial format that you need an external tool. After that you can use it with WinXP. Try it.
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Why would you want to run FAT32 on a large hdd, though?

Perhaps it's silly of the formatter to disallow FAT32 on >32gig drives and NTFS on floppies, but... whatever Smile
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f0dder wrote:
Why would you want to run FAT32 on a large hdd, though?
Because that older computer used Windows 98 Razz

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Borsuc wrote:
f0dder wrote:
Why would you want to run FAT32 on a large hdd, though?
Because that older computer used Windows 98 Razz
Fair Smile

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f0dder wrote:
rugxulo: I wouldn't use NTFS for a 4GB usb pen... right filesystem for the job, etc... which certainly also means I wouldn't use any form of FAT for a modern harddrive.

Azu: it's too bad nobody has ported XFS (or ZFS) to Windows... it's possible to do so, though, and ext2 has already been ported (although I dunno if the project is still active). Wouldn't use Reiser after Hans was convicted, though - the future of that filesystem is just too uncertain, and with zfs, ext4 and btrfs coming up, well...
Whoever manages the Windows distros is free to do so. Those filesystems are all free and open sourced, so it should be pretty easy. AFAIK the company that puts the Windows distros together has their own little pet filesystem and are worried nobody would use it if the others were added, since it is atrocious in comparison. Kind of like how they are afraid including Firefox or Opera would completely kill their little browser (I forget what it's called, sorry).
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Opensource yes, free? Dunno, some of them are GPL Wink - so it could be "kinda problematic" for MS to include support for those filesystems. Atrocious in comparison to other systems from the same era? Based on what?
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Same era? Don't know. It's from way back in 1993. Definitely in comparison to systems nowadays, though.

As for GPL, they would just have to release their Windows distros under the GPL also. "Problem" solved.
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