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HyperVista



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Check it out, Borland is bringing back the "Turbo" line of dev tools. Surprised One free version and one pay version. No mention of TASM, though. Crying or Very sad

http://www.turboexplorer.com/
Post 09 Aug 2006, 01:52
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shoorick



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left child has to be adopted Wink
Post 09 Aug 2006, 05:10
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OzzY



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Is it true? O.o
I didn't find anything at borland's home page.
Post 09 Aug 2006, 13:03
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MazeGen



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I thought Borland sells TASM some time ago.
Post 09 Aug 2006, 13:14
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OzzY



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Will it be the same Turbo compilers that existed years ago or a modern version?
Post 09 Aug 2006, 18:31
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There's a thread about it over at DonationCoder - I don't think it's the same compilers, but more like tagging on "turbo" to some existing (newer) products.
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0x4e71



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Ha, hahahah.
Figures, they are desperate enough to try regaining some market share by bringing back the old "Turbo" brand. Because of course it's just a brand, these products are totally unrelated to the original Turbo's.

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edit: btw, here's the press release at borland's http://www.borland.com/it/company/news/press_releases/2006/08_07_06_borlands_developer_tools_group_plans_to_rev_up_classic_turbo.html
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0x4e71 - you're right, of course. it's just a marketting ploy. the sight of the "Turbo" logo and packaging colors brought back fond memories, something I suspect the Borland marketting team is counting on.
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OzzY



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Well, at least the free version will be worth! Very Happy
Time to play around with pascal again and remember the old days!
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Bleh... no Linux version? Sad
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Turbos released!!
Downloading Turbo C++ right now! Laughing
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Wow! by watching this video I saw a feature that's really scary.
I used to say that Delphi writes codes for you, so it will not be optimal, because it's generated code. So, I allways say that assembly is better, because you have *FULL* control.

Now, I see that this Delphi version really writes code for you.
If you type the "For" statement it will complete with the counter and also declare it as integer at the right place.
Now, that's scary! Programmers will be substituted soon by auto-generating-bloated-HLL-IDE's wizards!!!
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OzzY wrote:
Wow! by watching this video I saw a feature that's really scary.
I used to say that Delphi writes codes for you, so it will not be optimal, because it's generated code. So, I allways say that assembly is better, because you have *FULL* control.

Now, I see that this Delphi version really writes code for you.
If you type the "For" statement it will complete with the counter and also declare it as integer at the right place.
Now, that's scary! Programmers will be substituted soon by auto-generating-bloated-HLL-IDE's wizards!!!


Many IDEs (and IDE plugins, like Visual Assist) as well as text editors have offered this for a while. I personally turn that stuff off, though, since it gets in my way.

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vid
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these things should be turned off by default
Post 06 Sep 2006, 08:56
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I tried it and I liked. It's very good for RAD programming and quick testing.
But I couldn't run the programs on other machines. It requires some bpl files. Anyone knows how to avoid this?
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Ozzy: either you link statically against the VCL (and have huge executables), or you distribute the necessary .bpl files with your app (they're really just renamed .dlls).
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OzzY wrote:
Wow! by watching this video I saw a feature that's really scary.
I used to say that Delphi writes codes for you, so it will not be optimal, because it's generated code.

Intelesense is great but I do miss the borland debugger, they were all great. The DOS and windows versions were far superior to M$ debuggers with builtin symbolic support for TASM, BC, BCPP and Borland Pascal. The debugger was even symbol intellegent so you could put a watch point in a TASM struct member in a statically linked C++ Builder app and it would catch it. Those were the good ole days.
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DOS386



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Quote:
Borland is bringing back the "Turbo" line of dev tools.


1. NOT new (saw this issue many months ago Sad )
2. NOT amused Sad

Before Boreland reinvents the "Turbo", they should at least clean up
the mess with the old "Turbo"'s : release them into Freeware with
sources
Idea

I am personally not really interested but there are still a few DOS
projects hanging on them ... and still silly discussions and "illegal" link
kick-out's by Admin in various Turbo-PASCAL and some "C" forums Twisted Evil

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