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Speaking of C,I can't believe I used 2 program in such a bloated thing.
It was a good step toward learning ASM,but it's not as fast/small as ASM
nor is it as easy as QBasic. Yep,my views have changed.
Post 10 Oct 2006, 20:57
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Ever try FreeBasic? It's awesome 'cause it can compile to machine code, and I've done low-level OS writing with it before as a test!

The link is this:
http://www.freebasic.net/
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I used FB for awhile,but I can't stand it cause it's actually more bloated
than C. Nothing will ever compare to DOS COM files written in ASM.

I deleted all my compilers recently. I'm moving 2 DOS ASM.

If I can't do it in ASM,I'll either not do it at all or use QBasic.
I have a lot of QBasic friends.
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2, DJGPP is what you used before, and that is slightly bloated because it's POSIX compatible and supports LFNs (and, well, it's GCC, it's supposed to be bloated/powerful). Try OpenWatcom (which can produce 16-bit real mode as well as 32-bit pmode).

BTW, FreeBASIC is ridiculously good, and it will be MUCH better in the next release (supposedly). Face it, in ASM you don't have the libraries that C (and FreeBASIC) have. And, you can always do inline ASM. Smile
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rugxulo wrote:
2, DJGPP is what you used before, and that is slightly bloated because it's POSIX compatible and supports LFNs (and, well, it's GCC, it's supposed to be bloated/powerful). Try OpenWatcom (which can produce 16-bit real mode as well as 32-bit pmode).

BTW, FreeBASIC is ridiculously good, and it will be MUCH better in the next release (supposedly). Face it, in ASM you don't have the libraries that C (and FreeBASIC) have. And, you can always do inline ASM. Smile


I agree that Open Watcom is something for you to look into. I would recomend the Visual C++ Express edition but then you get all those dependancies. Besides you can even write Linux exe, dos com/exe, Windows exe, etc with Open Watcom.

I'm going to check out that freebasic compiler. Looks cool. I'm not really a fan of basic anymore but for the sake of nostalgia I'll check it out.
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I deleted all my compilers recently. I'm moving 2 DOS ASM.

If I can't do it in ASM,I'll either not do it at all or use QBasic.
I have a lot of QBasic friends.

I use a DOS asm compiler interpreter called Ketman, it even runs on an old HP200LX I got for fifty quid on ebay so I can sit in the sun and mess around.
http://www.btinternet.com/~btketman/tutpage.html
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