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Andyrooroo



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Hi im andrew im very new to assembler. I recently started doing an ICT course which is generally studying different aspects of ICT. However on the syllabus i noticed at some point next year we will be learing assembler. In the past ive done maths however i have never learnt a programming language at all. I was wondering if anyone here could give me some advice on good books to read etc on the subject and general advice.

Im very new to programming in any language let alone assembler and would prefer books/ links that start VERY basic Razz . The books ive looked at so far just overwhelm me and start off too detailed.

In all any advice would good and i hope you can help me in some way.

Thanks,
Andrew


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Post 20 Sep 2006, 20:47
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hmmm, this might get you over some problems with understanding assembler: http://decard.net/article.php. still it's far far from enough.

but to be able to create program yourself, you need algorithmical thinking - and that is something you can get ONLY by trying to write programs yourself.

Take some pascal, or C, learn very basic things (output to screen, input from keyboard, if, for, while/repeat) and try to write something yours. This experience will go further with you, and will be used with any programming language
Post 20 Sep 2006, 21:37
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rugxulo



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Well, if you believe what they say, BASIC is good for beginners (hence the B in BASIC). Anyways, FreeBASIC is a good choice for that and has many examples (included or on the forum) plus FBhelp (which is very useful).

As far as assembly tutorials and general helpful examples, search the forum here (e.g., snake game) and also check out Simtel.net: asmtutor.zip and primer2.zip.

Also, Ralph Brown's interrupt list is helpful for DOS.
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tom tobias



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Quote:

The books ive looked at so far just overwhelm me and start off too detailed.
http://www.scs.carleton.ca/~sivarama/asm_book/
The late professor Dandamudi's textbook is your best choice, NOT C, and certainly, not BASIC.
For the cost of 8 beers, you can purchase a used copy of his first edition:
http://www.bestwebbuys.com/Introduction_to_Assembly_Language_Programming-ISBN_0387985301.html?isrc=b-search
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In the past ive done maths however i have never learnt ...

Evidently you will be drinking either English or Australian beer, since in North America, we would refer to mathematics as math, and indicate the past tense of learn with a d, not a t. This obstacle, English or Australian beer, is not insurmountable. Depending on the interval during which you consume this excellent enhancer of one's creative skills, you may be able to afford the SECOND edition (2005) of his book. http://www.lfchosting.com/eapoe/GENINFO/poealchl.htm
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Post 21 Sep 2006, 09:59
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Andyrooroo



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Evidently you will be drinking either English or Australian beer, since in North America, we would refer to mathematics as math, and indicate the past tense of learn with a d, not a t.


Well deduced tom. I am from England.

Thanks for all the advice and i will definately look into purchasing that book.

Thanks to everyone for their advice and i welcome further advice.

Andrew

p.s Everyone should use correct English its learnt not learned or however you americans spell it. Its call the "english" language for a reason Razz .

Thanks again,
Andrew
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I wouldn't tell anyone how to write when you've got errors in your post.
Post 21 Sep 2006, 12:10
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Andyrooroo



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mattst88 chill out it was just a friendly joke at america... i thought america were all for freedom of speech
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tbohon



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Andrew:

Haven't read the other books suggested above (although I'm now going to go out and find them Smile) but Jeff Duntemann put out a pretty good book on basic assembly language. I found it helpful years ago when I first started - although I believe he uses TASM for all of his examples. TASM is, BTW, available for free (older versions) - I found it somewhere out on the internet one time while searching for something else.

I think you'll enjoy assembly language programming --- good luck!

Best,

Tom

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quite right ..... americans can be such wankers at times Smile

i agree with tbohon, Jeff Duttemann's book is quite good. So is Kip Irvine's "Assembly Language Programming for Intel Based Computers"

pip, pip, cheerio and all that good rot! say no more, say no more (i learnt that on monty python .. the telly)
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In all any advice would good and i hope you can help me in some way.

hi, andrew
instead of starting programming using assembler, i suggest you read articles or document or wikipedia on how computer works, history about computer, 8086, 486, how the memory works, those memory address, what is cpu, and how the disk/files work and etc.

i think those would help you to understand assembler more better.

h a p p y c o d i n g
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vid
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and i suggest to start coding assembler before reading these, because you wouldn't understand 3/4 of those things until you try it in practice
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Andyrooroo



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thanks again everyone has been a great help Smile ill check out the books everyone said
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