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vid 08 Sep 2006, 08:54
anyone reacted? or is this alive?
i still feel we should rename/move thread somehow... |
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08 Sep 2006, 08:54 |
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sylwek32 08 Sep 2006, 18:05
is alive. nobody reacted.. please convert to announce! @vid
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08 Sep 2006, 18:05 |
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vid 08 Sep 2006, 20:02
hmmm, didn't you post two threads like this? this could also go to OS-DEV...
do you want to announce in OS-dev, Main, or here (i don't think this thread is good place)? |
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08 Sep 2006, 20:02 |
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AdamMarquis 26 Sep 2006, 05:28
Hi
Glad to come back to the FASM Forum, an old time favorite!! I did post part of the (supposedly for ARM7 and up) AHA forth system, before it was finished. I think it only begins but still (menuet?!) is a 50% system idea completed, subject of odd sector settled, hactars makes me dream, ventureforth also. Now it boasts (imagine it does; you could've read "It, the code, begs for") CDROM Packet Access (in the atapi spec i refeerenced, up to DVD Read access, (nowhere else than linux:?) USB keyboard and examples of (marvelous NATIVELY multi-)mouse driving code (whoa sorry for the last phrasing) and network card access. An optimal and I mean optimal language/solution ia clearly under's one sight right now, which 99% of the time is simply the simplest while most efficient language possible, clearly following the implementation (fabrication process' a factor) of the underlying hardware. What one's need for a dream OS is a parallel port capacitive keyboard, on top of a normal cable between the printer and the host, if need be. Or just homemade using aluminium foil or PCB traces and pads like ByteCraft. A CAD program, like Charles H. Moore a créé for his VLSI/ "ultrafeedback" development effort, but working up to a PCB scale outside the main circuit. The perfect, silent computer, with embedded atenna parabolic foil antenna, perhaps rectifying radioactive traces at real time for some 80 years perhaps, depending on the isotope's energy outburst? +-, push pull, the best way to transmit powe, look the now free Borderlands Research Videos on video.google.com, the longitudinal transmission line model, capacitive linking with included inductor/?coherent?accelerator (almost means?Really Fast?) phase wave transmission effect going at inverse of speed..... At least, mroe concretely, look at the avramenko patent, at Constantinesco's "Sonics", and you will understand, now we only need to understand the Ripping Cut. Hmmm let's change things, okay this time? let's post about modified routers, withh invisible capacitives touchpads added, piece of wire with aluminium foil soldered to the board and placed on the inner plastic shell with the needed remodeled firmware inside. A complete computer, with vnc, can be constructed. With efficient applications, it would mean THE END for many falsehoods on this world, yep that large in span. i'll go for now, just to keep up here, look at my posted stuff in OS dev part of forum, point me to yours if you don't mind, I'm very curious and willing to improve upon the already done work to finally achieve something, before the 14th of October,so that I could wrap it and show how kids(/total newbies) need to be first told (taught) about computers. Adam |
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26 Sep 2006, 05:28 |
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f0dder 26 Sep 2006, 10:05
O_o
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26 Sep 2006, 10:05 |
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HyperVista 26 Sep 2006, 10:30
@vid - i think we've found your THC candidate.
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26 Sep 2006, 10:30 |
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vid 26 Sep 2006, 10:57
must be something stronger...
f0dder: there you have it, about not posting 3 times in a row |
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26 Sep 2006, 10:57 |
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smiddy 27 Sep 2006, 04:04
vid wrote: must be something stronger... I want some, I need to become sooo unfocused! |
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27 Sep 2006, 04:04 |
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vid 30 Sep 2006, 23:22
i did some moderating with that post to separate different topics, so you can better read it
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30 Sep 2006, 23:22 |
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dazzit 11 Jan 2007, 11:46
How alive is this now nearly nine months later?
I've been messing around with operating system development for some time now but it's really too big a project for one person to support all the hardware out there. I'm starting to think in the general direction of reflective programming (as in dynamically compiling/assembling as the OS loads). A few months back I developed something I called the flat system which was vanilla fasm using a modified version of TinyCC (by Fabrice Bellard) for 'C' and back end linking of modules and CodeBlocks as an IDE. I had to modify TCC as it kept padding out the start of pure binary files with dynamic linker crap. However I can't find the source for it. It would have been nice to have had somewhere to put it and get some kind of peer opinion on certain concepts. The idea was to actually have a very quick assembler and compiler actually within the kernel by using core code from FASM and TCC. Any takers? |
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11 Jan 2007, 11:46 |
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vid 11 Jan 2007, 12:41
haha, this thread was fun.
good old times... |
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11 Jan 2007, 12:41 |
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f0dder 11 Jan 2007, 19:02
dazzit: perhaps you should look at cc386? Last I looked at it, it had source code and did NASM output. Perhaps it's not too hard adapting it for FASM output?
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dazzit 05 Feb 2007, 14:21
I think the biggie with TCC for me was the way that the linker was integrated into the compiler and the speed. The downside of course being the awfully inneficient (redundant) code output.
This thread probably belongs in the HLA topic anyway but it's an old old argument over which compiler is best at what and there's no ideal solution. The same goes over which IDE. I'd like to see some additons to PN2 for instance. My current project is concentrating on buying a bar at the moment anyway. I'll keep people posted as to whether I actualy manage to get the money to do it. I've already been ripped off once. |
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05 Feb 2007, 14:21 |
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m 29 Apr 2007, 08:41
is the offer still open ? can we talk on this ?
_________________ Attitude! |
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29 Apr 2007, 08:41 |
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hckr83 07 Jun 2007, 18:52
Guessing not?
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07 Jun 2007, 18:52 |
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vid 08 Jun 2007, 10:56
removing "announcement" status of thread
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08 Jun 2007, 10:56 |
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edfed 21 Jan 2008, 02:01
this contest can become simpler.
what about a simple boot server contest? something able to boot and directlly browse on the net? not exactlly a contest, a corporation would be better, we are not concurents. trying to participate on a big project together can be great no? if you are interrested, the goal is to boot in less than 1 second and directlly login this board. no size limit for the system, HLL accepted (at least, compilable with fasm), but the ONE second post-boot operability is an obligation. |
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LocoDelAssembly 21 Jan 2008, 02:49
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A too severe constraint I'm afraid, especially if it includes the login process. Even not taking into account the time to read the program from persistent memory is still severe contraint, all the involved hardware can't be initialized that fast, a 5 to 10 seconds constraint would be a more sane to pursuit. |
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21 Jan 2008, 02:49 |
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Octavio 21 Jan 2008, 09:32
LocoDelAssembly wrote:
doing it in one second (after the bios) is not the problem,most hardware can be detected and configured in miliseconds. The problem is just to write the code. |
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21 Jan 2008, 09:32 |
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