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white_wight



Joined: 03 Feb 2006
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white_wight
Why not put in fasmw package the HTML version of fasm manual (and the rest of HTMLs from the documentation section) instead of that bloated PDF Question Exclamation
Besides, HTML version is much more better to look at and to navigate through.

Or am I forever condemned to download the prefered Wink form of a manual separetly from the package? Crying or Very sad

Would appreciate if Tomasz changes his mysterious considerations. Rolling Eyes
Post 29 May 2006, 01:23
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r22



Joined: 27 Dec 2004
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r22
The bookmarks in the PDF version make navigation very efficient, also a 400kb *.pdf really shouldn't be considered bloated.
Post 29 May 2006, 05:25
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revolution
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revolution
I find that searching is easier with PDF's.
Post 29 May 2006, 05:36
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okasvi



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okasvi
Firefox's ctrl+f is faster than with Adobe's PDF's, and it takes while to load up the PDF, even with 'optimized' reader which doesnt load unnecessary plugins.

But I can live with PDF's tho Smile
Post 29 May 2006, 06:01
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Madis731



Joined: 25 Sep 2003
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Madis731
Mozilla Application Suite (... 1.7.13 - closed)
and the all new Seamonkey (1.0 - 1.0.1)
have type-ahead-find that also Firefox incorporates.
You can just type - no other tricks needed.
Its easy to navigate to a link in a 100-page document
and press enter without searching or scrolling or pointing or clicking or ...Very Happy

but still the PDF is meant for documents and its logical to have it this way. HTML tends to be bloat because it doesn't have compression.
Post 29 May 2006, 09:22
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donkey7



Joined: 31 Jan 2005
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Quote:

HTML tends to be bloat because it doesn't have compression.


pdf uses internally a lzw implementation, so it's compression is very poor and it makes file incompressible for normal packers. you can try this. make one normal pdf and compress with bzip2 and then make an uncompressed pdf and compress with bzip2. then compare sizes.

i will be happy if i have some tool for uncompressing pdf's.

i think that even good deflate implementation (like those in 7-zip or kzip) will provide better compression than pdf algorithms. maybe tomasz will send us an uncompressed version of fasm's manual...
Post 29 May 2006, 14:02
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