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Inf0Byt3



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Hello. I am new to FASM (in fact I could say I have zero knowledge about assembler) but I'd like to learn... I need some help with FASM. I find the documentation too small and I don't understand a bit. Any links\help highly appreciated. BTW, I'm a PureBasic programmer, does this help?

Thanks!

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1+1=2 Very Happy
Post 17 Apr 2006, 22:44
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vid
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not much here, probably stopped, but may help a bit.

http://board.flatassembler.net/topic.php?t=1178

problem is you need to learn a lot until you know what to learn Smile
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btw, if you learn a lot of assembly then sometimes 1+1=10 Wink
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or 1+1 = GPF
Post 18 Apr 2006, 10:50
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Inf0Byt3 wrote:
Hello. I am new to FASM (in fact I could say I have zero knowledge about assembler) but I'd like to learn... I need some help with FASM. I find the documentation too small and I don't understand a bit. Any links\help highly appreciated. BTW, I'm a PureBasic programmer, does this help?

Thanks!

The book I learnt asm from was The Art of Assembly Language Programming which explains a lot of starts. Personally, I read only the DOS edition (don't think it's outdated, in my opinion we learn from all things, and I hate to call something obsolete; nevertheless, it explains assembly from low-level perspective, and you want to learn assembly don't you, in fact, you can skip the DOS chapter if you don't like dos). And it was the book that made me love asm. I encourage you to read it.

The most important key to all learning is to enjoy doing it. i.e it's not like someone forces you to learn, you learn because you want and thus you need to enjoy it. Your will is the key, it's important to put effort and never accept defeat. Cool

Then, after you're more proficient, just try some googling, personally I learnt from various articles. Just search what you need for. If you can't find it or don't know how it's named, feel free to check forums. IMHO, forums are a must.


and one more thing: don't be discouraged by many people that will tell you that asm is useless/etc.. Simply ignore them. They are only consumptive people that simply can't understand such low-level things, and have nothing else to do than spread their plague.
just remember, we are here Wink


happy learning Very Happy
Post 18 Apr 2006, 11:39
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@The_Grey_Beast
The_Grey_Beast, multumesc Smile Esti super de treaba.

Thank you all for the quick answers. I'll do my best to learn FASM. In fact, I allready understood some things, but it's not enough. Thank you.
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Inf0Byt3 wrote:
The_Grey_Beast, multumesc Smile Esti super de treaba.

Hey Very Happy
I think I didn't see your location, didn't know you are romanian. there are few here
Succes Cool
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It's not your fault, I had other location set up in the profile, but it's better like this Smile. Thank you for your kind words Very Happy.
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romanian? is that italian?
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Heh Very Happy no
Romania (the country) is called in english
România (the country) is called in native language (the language is called natively română)

Here's a pic: clicky
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oh yes, in our lanuage it is called "rumunsko" Smile

"sko" is end for countries, so it is like some Rumunia in english Laughing Laughing Laughing

btw, unia in our language means what Union means in english, so it can be Rum Union Wink

no harm of course
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vid wrote:
oh yes, in our lanuage it is called "rumunsko" Smile

"sko" is end for countries, so it is like some Rumunia in english Laughing Laughing Laughing

btw, unia in our language means what Union means in english, so it can be Rum Union Wink

no harm of course

Very Happy that's not as strange compared to other countries I've seen, believe me Very Happy
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The_Grey_Beast wrote:

The most important key to all learning is to enjoy doing it. i.e it's not like someone forces you to learn, you learn because you want and thus you need to enjoy it. Your will is the key, it's important to put effort and never accept defeat. Cool

Then, after you're more proficient, just try some googling, personally I learnt from various articles. Just search what you need for. If you can't find it or don't know how it's named, feel free to check forums. IMHO, forums are a must.

and one more thing: don't be discouraged by many people that will tell you that asm is useless/etc.. Simply ignore them. They are only consumptive people that simply can't understand such low-level things, and have nothing else to do than spread their plague.
just remember, we are here Wink


Gotta agree with you. That's the best way you'll learn, is if you enjoy doing it. All I do on the PC is code. I used to exclusively code in C; I've always wanted to learn assembly, and finally I am an it's my new favorite language. Any new application I write now, I do it in assembly. It's fun.

I actually "learned" from an excellent book, Programming from the Ground Up. All code is in GAS (which I really don't like), but the conversion from GAS to fasm syntax is quite easy.

I also learn by just doing; moreso than anything in fact. The more code you write, the more you will learn, and gain experience. There is a limit to how much you can learn from reading (as far as programming goes); however, if you constantly code, you will constantly learn.
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Wow. Thanks for the advices... I'm allready making progresses Very Happy
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Patrick: That's the same way I learnt -- first C, then asm.. and now I enjoy asm. Same history, different books Very Happy Very Happy coincidence Laughing
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