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Sahrian



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Sahrian
My 4.8 version of IDA PRO (which is the best disassembler available) still works in DOS. It really deserves the money. Thank you very much Ilfak Guilfanov&CO!
Post 15 Aug 2007, 07:41
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Matrix



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Dear DOS ASM - ers

you should respect each other more, and write in a less insulting manner, this is not a solution, the forum's primary purpose is to help others, and discuss things.

f0dder, i think maeby people reading this message board does not agree with the rude words you use these times.
Post 17 Aug 2007, 23:37
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Matrix



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Sahrian wrote:
Matrix represents a lack of presence on this FASM DOS forum. Why he is moderator? He doesn't know anything about DOS, so he lacks the knowledge to be useful here. Please replace Matrix as moderator! Twisted Evil


Sahrian, i'm not sure why you are saying i do not know anything about Dos,
but a Moderator is primarily here to moderate, delete spam, stop flaming, move/delete/merge/split topics, and also be a part of the message board as a regular member.

Your questioning of my usefulness here sounds like a personal insultion, think about someone telling you are not useful.
Post 17 Aug 2007, 23:53
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Sahrian



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Sahrian, i'm not sure why you are saying i do not know anything about Dos


More truthful was to say that you don't know ENOUGH about DOS. In some topics from FASM DOS forum have been posted misguiding/incorrect informations or answers, but you had no reaction. Your only excuse is to say that you didn't read them, but as moderator your duty is to read any post in this forum.

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Your questioning of my usefulness here sounds like a personal insultion, think about someone telling you are not useful.


I didn't insult you. If you find insult in my posts you are too chilidish. I "questioned your usefulness", as you say, based on facts.

Matrix!
I have nothing to share with you. If you think that it is important for you to be moderator, just continue to be, but take someone else to help you. It doesn't cost anything!
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Japheth



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f0dder wrote:
NTOSKRNL_VXE: IDA is not open-source and it's not <200kb. There used to be a DOS version, but I frankly don't care one bit about DOS these days, in my mind it's dead and gone and good f***ing riddance.


Why in such a bad mood, fßdder? IIRC you are/were a moderator of the Win32asm board, which surely is ways more "dead" than DOS.

f0dder wrote:
What's the point in having a small and/or dos and/or opensource disassembler if it's only able to produce dumb static disassembly listings? For any serious use, you need an interactive disassembler.


I know you are a reasonable person, so why posting such bullsh*t? You cannot know all possible serious uses, and for many of those a simple disassembler will suffice (HT for example).

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- and the FLIRT recognition in IDA also comes in extremely helpful, along with it's massive file format support (and processor support, for those that need it).


Since you don't even bother to explain what FLIRT is, this part of your post is just advertising/spamming.
Post 18 Aug 2007, 14:56
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DOS386



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I just would like to saving the disassembly into a file.


Hey ... BIEW can do this Idea ... it's a bit hidden in "File Utilities" ... but works Smile

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Bug Nr.: 12345

Title: Hello World program compiles to 100 KB !!!

Status: Closed: NOT a Bug
Post 19 Aug 2007, 06:34
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rugxulo



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First of all, I think we've all heard the "F bomb" about a gazillion times. Besides, f0dder is pretty smart, always helping people on this forum, and is certainly entitled to his opinion. So, it's very hard for me to get mad at him.

However, no, DOS ain't dead, that's just plain fallacy.


  • DOSBox 0.72 -- Aug. 26, 2007
  • DOSEMU 1.4.0 -- May 2007
  • EDR-DOS 7.01.08 WIP -- June 17, 2007
  • FreeDOS 1.0 -- Sep. 3, 2006 (with a billion new things since, including my own mini floppy distro w/ lots of help from Eric Auer)
  • Perl 5.8.8, GCC 4.2.1, OpenWatcom 1.7, CC386 3.54, FreeBASIC 0.18.1b, XMGR + UDVD + UDMA, JEMMEX 5.66, 4DOS 7.57, LAME 3.97, FTE 0.50.1, Blocek 1.32, Mpxplay 1.55, Ghostscript 8.57 (Win32/HX compile), etc. etc. etc. (see my wimpy page for more useful links)


DOS maybe ain't entirely commercially viable anymore (but see this and this), but it sure ain't "dead" (as in "unused"). Razz

P.S. The latest DOS version of IDA Free (that I know of, anyways) is 3.7, and you can download it here.

P.P.S. Almost forgot! Enjoy the (modified, tongue-in-cheek) banners! Wink

Gene Simmons (of KISS) wrote:

There's no such thing as bad publicity.


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Post 28 Aug 2007, 23:57
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DOS386



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> P.S. The latest DOS version of IDA Free (that I know of, anyways) is 3.7, and you can download it here. (6502 Laughing )

Did you test ? Does not work at all for me Sad runs out of memory even on a 10 bytes .COM Sad
Post 29 Aug 2007, 05:47
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f0dder



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Haha rugxulo, I love those banners Smile

Well, an apology is in order. I always use "view new posts since last visit", and the original question didn't seem DOS related at all; didn't notice that it was in the DOS section.

NTOSKRNL_VXE got a bit on my nerves, and well... everybody can have a bad day. So, sorry, peace out.

Japheth: I do believe that for just about any serious use, static disassembly will not suffice; sure, it'll work with <1kb attrib utilities Smile, but not if you need to understand a program that's a bit larger.

FLIRT is a library recognition technology, which handles a lot of existing high-level runtime libraries, meaning that for anything compiled with a known compiler+runtime, you'll get all the standard names instead of having to detect those functions yourself - really handy. It's also possible to build your own FLIRT signatures to detect things like PCRE, libtomcrypt, ...
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rugxulo



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NTOSKRNL_VXE wrote:
> P.S. The latest DOS version of IDA Free (that I know of, anyways) is 3.7, and you can download it here. (6502 Laughing )

Did you test ? Does not work at all for me Sad runs out of memory even on a 10 bytes .COM Sad


Yes, just now tested on XP, apparently works fine (with FreeDOS attrib, 7k .COM, unpacked) though I only looked at superficially, didn't reassemble the output or anything. Razz

It does say in the docs that you need at least 500k conv. mem. plus some fair amount of free HD space. It also can take advantage of XMS or EMS. (So, don't run from floppy or other low-end situation and make sure a good mem. manager is running).

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Haha rugxulo, I love those banners Smile


Spread 'em around! Seriously, any publicity is good publicity! Laughing
Post 30 Aug 2007, 02:56
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DOS386



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Gene Simmons (of KISS) wrote:
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There's no such thing as bad publicity.


Are you sure ? Laughing

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Yes, just now tested on XP
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It does say in the docs that you need at least 500k conv. mem. plus some fair amount of free HD space. It also can take advantage of XMS or EMS. (So, don't run from floppy or other low-end situation and make sure a good mem. manager is running).


OK, works now. Low memory hog Sad fails to test for required memory Sad throws random inappropriate error messages Sad and if it crashes if leaves some crap files on HD preventing it from running well next time Sad ... well, delete crap AND activate "good" manager ... works ... Neutral

Good idea, bad implementation Confused

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Bug Nr.: 12345

Title: Hello World program compiles to 100 KB !!!

Status: Closed: NOT a Bug
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