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Esperanto is phonetic, too, which is what some of you are complaining that English is not. Also, don't underestimate it: there are many, many books in it (e.g., Lord of the Rings, Alice in Wonderland) and more than a few publications that are published (online and/or in print: Monato, Litova Stelo, Literatura Foiro, Laute!, Esperanto USA, etc.).
BTW, if you want to learn, here is an online copy of the original "official" Esperanto book (fundamento=foundation, as in "this part should remain the unchanged basis for all future grammars" [paraphrased]).
AND, here's some good E-o music for you to listen to (Persone):
Bonvenon! = Welcome!
Saluton. = Hello.
ktp. ("kaj tiel plu") = etc.
manghi = to eat
bone = it is well, good, okay
samideano = Esperantisto ("one with the same ideas")
komputilo = computer
elshuti = to download
alklaki = to click on
jes = yes
ne = no
Parolu malrapide! = Speak slowly!
Chu vi scipovas la anglan? = Can you speak English?
|06 Nov 2005, 02:33||
Esperanto is a nice idea.
How is it used in the world? Is there people talking in esperanto?
I think something that is preventing men to evolve is really a simple, global and widely accepted language. Imagine one day that people talk the same language. We could learn this from when we were born and be able to travel around the world and understand everything.
Although english is really a standard already, I think because of nationalism, Esperanto seems a better idea, because it doesn't relates to any country.
|01 Sep 2006, 12:55||
How is it used? Lots and lots of publications plus quite a few national (and one yearly international) conventions where people get together. There's no easy way to summarize what goes on (besides reading the news bulletins, e.g. like what ELNA e-mails us members, plus Esperanto USA, which comes quarterly). I think Brazil has a very strong Esperanto following. UEA is the international E-o organization. (The link I found from Google for Brazil's E-o society seems to be down, so whatever).
|01 Sep 2006, 17:45||
tom tobias, if Esperanto seems to be too hard for you, try Toki Pona. It's really simple, nice sounding, and funny, although some people consider it to be oversimplified. Also, Toki Pona is not so popular as Esperanto.
|02 Sep 2006, 13:28||
Esperanto, and every other language, is too difficult for me, just as, for the Intel x86 instruction set, mul is too difficult, (I only use imul, where one can employ two visible operands!). I am devoted to minimalism: Klee, Kandinsky, Winslow Homer, Piet Mondrian, but not TOO minimalistic. I need transparency, simplicity, and obviousness. I could never understand E.E. Cummings--too attenuated--too minimalist--too obscure:
I need sufficient elaboration to explain in detail what one is doing, and why, and how, and for what price. Toki Pona is TOO brief. Too attenuated. No, I am condemned to rely on the only language I am capable of understanding, and compelled to watch from afar as learned people speak in many other languages almost effortlessly. Following Milton's observation: I simply stand and wait:
|02 Sep 2006, 15:22||
In my humble opinion, texts in Toki Pona sound like texts in some Polynesian language (e.g. Hawaiian); there are also many vowels and simple grammar.
Please, stop this self-criticism. It's very unpleasant and sad for such reader as me.
tom tobias wrote:
Esperanto, and every other language, is too difficult for me
|03 Sep 2006, 17:08||
this self-criticism -> agree, it's all is question of the time, wish and will. If 2-years old children can speek in their language - why we cann't?
|04 Sep 2006, 04:57||
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