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vbVeryBeginner



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so destructive ... hope everybody is safe
Post 31 Aug 2005, 08:43
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vid
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wow i first saw it today... how many ppl lived there?
Post 31 Aug 2005, 10:34
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vbVeryBeginner



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time is near, something big is gonna happened soon... just could feel that.


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Post 31 Aug 2005, 11:17
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smiddy



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I have a friend down there. I haven't been able to get ahold of him or his family. Sad
Post 31 Aug 2005, 14:00
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THEWizardGenius



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Too bad. In our World History class we have a current events report. About half of the class at least did theirs about Katrina- myself included.

I feel sorry for all the tourists who have to live in the SuperDome. I heard at least 3 people in there have died by now.
Post 31 Aug 2005, 23:04
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dieboy



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Oh my God...
Post 01 Sep 2005, 09:30
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revolution
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I was in New Orleans at this time last year and almost went there again this year. I am glad I went to Reno instead. Sad to hear about those people caught up in it all.
Post 01 Sep 2005, 09:47
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UCM



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really not good... plus new orleans is sinking, they'll always have this problem...
Post 01 Sep 2005, 14:28
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vid
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today i 've heard about 60% of population there was uneducated and many of them even illiterates... wow. (if course it's still a disaster)
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smiddy



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vid wrote:
today i 've heard about 60% of population there was uneducated and many of them even illiterates... wow. (if course it's still a disaster)


vid, your numbers may not be entirely correct. I suspect about 20% are uneducated, that is people who never made it past eighth grade (I'm not sure what that equates to in your education system). Last I knew 50% graduated high school.

My firend, whom I can't seem to reach, is a college grad, which is out of the norm.

I am reluctant to watch the news as it is emotionally unsettling to me. I hope that the government can get their act together soon enough to put people at ease. We'll see!
Post 02 Sep 2005, 02:31
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MCD



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OMG. Hopefully I don't got anyone living there I knew.

Let's hope the US government will be able to help its own people, because they got enough other problems Sad
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vbVeryBeginner



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ok, i edited this back.
who knows, maybe there are gays in fasm forum...

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Who should we blame the tsunami on? Muslims in general?

yes.

random doesn't exists.

i appologize if i had made some of you felt angry... or watsoever...

- is me, in your head. a copy of reality in your dark skull.


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Post 02 Sep 2005, 15:28
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Eoin



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vbBeginner I fail to see the connection between this disaster and gay marriage unless you are implying some sort of divine retribution. And if you are that’s quite insensitive of you Mad .
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farrier



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I live about 200 miles--320 Km--due North of New Orleans and have many friends and customers in N.O and along the Gulf Coast. I have not been able to contact most of them, by phone or e-mail, but that may be because nothing is working, still! No phone, power, water, cell phone, wireless, ... Where I am we caught some very severe winds from the west side of the storm and have been cleaning up limbs and building pieces since Tuesday.

1 million of the 1.8 million living in Mississippi were still without electricity as of yesterday. Luckily mine is supplied from "Up North" by the Tennessee Valley Authority. One of the U.S.'s best examples of socialism.

The people you see on the news coverage are not representative of the productive community of N.O. They had been warned to leave, but either declined to leave or could not afford to leave. N.O. is the same as any large city in the world--a magnet for productive and non-productive citizens. Each looking for a way to pay the bills, or have the bills paid for them. Living in N.O. was always a gamble for everyone there.

vbVeryBeginner,

Who should we blame the tsunami on? Muslims in general? Or just the random nature of life on earth? It's intolerance such as yours that adds to the hatred and anger that fuels the non-stop fighting around the world. God doesn't throw darts at us, he lets us do that to ourselves! We should all try harder not to throw darts at anyone. Sorry for my rant! I appreciate you and your contributions!!!

farrier

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Post 02 Sep 2005, 17:41
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El Tangas



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Divine retribution?
This are just the blind forces of nature at work, they have no purpose or feelings. Leave that to living things and deities.

The fault rests upon those who built a city below sea level on a hurricane area with insufficient defenses against them.

And seem to be more worried about looting than saving people.
Post 02 Sep 2005, 20:29
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smiddy



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WOW! What a thread this is turning into.

FYI: I was able to contact the company that my friend works for and he and his family made it out of there ok.

@farrier, try contacting the company if it is a national/international company. More than likely they have a hot line that will almost certainly get you news of the people you know, if not get you in contact with them.

@vib, I'm not sure how serious your tone is. It is difficult to sermize do to not being able to see you body language during your post. I suspect you can't be too serious, at least I hope so (giving you the benifit of the doubt).

Divine retribution?! As a scientist I am inclined to be an empiricist, show me supporting evidence that is reasonable and I'm with you, but given the diatribe here...enough said on that front by me!

I tend to agree with you farrier on most counts about the people who're there, but I think they too have a sense of urgency due to their respective situations (i.e. looting et al). Regardless of how they ended up there and the reasons why, I think everyone there needs our compasion and hope for safety and survival, much like the Tsunami in December. It is a real tough thing to be empathic, really without first hand experiencing what those there are going through. I am uncertain to the lengths I would go to ensure my families survival given those circumstances. On the otherhand, it is real easy to say that the government isn't doing enough, when you aren't there trying to ensure that you are doing enough for those victims. As a victim you wonder why it is taking so long without thinking the the impact of what has to happen to get the aid available. In the end, it will be fixed/nursed/healed over a period of time, not overnight as most would hope. We all need to give it some time and be pragmatic about the situation and know people are doing the best they can however they can given that desperate situation.

[of my soap box now]
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tom tobias



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tsunami: 1. no warning, 2. Force 100x greater than this hurricane (largely AIR blowing, as opposed to a WALL OF WATER for the tsunami. Even the recent typhoon which struck both TaiWan and China last week was more powerful than Katryna..
Victims: almost all, not 100%, but nearly all, POOR people. Flee from the destructive force: FLEE WHERE? FLEE HOW? It is easy to criticize those people with NO economic means, asking the silly question, WHY didn't they flee, much more difficult to answer the question, WHY WAS THE USA government unable to prepare for such a contingency, given at least 3 days advance warning.
Maybe the government doesn't care about deaths and looting and disease among these poor blacks, because the government of USA serves only its constituents, the very same wealthy white people who DENIED the poor black voters in Florida a voice in the 2000 presidential election--the "hurricane" that blew away their votes, which then led to Bush's appointment by the Supreme Court. Survival of the fittest. Anarchy. Capitalism. --> MICROSOFT. I knew there was a transition from this thread back to FASM. Smile
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THEWizardGenius



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lol

I see no connection between the hurricane and gay marriage. I don't believe God punishes people for that type of thing, I think they get what's coming to them.

And I see no connection between the tsunami and Muslims, as Muslims are not terrible people (in general, except the extremists).
Post 02 Sep 2005, 23:20
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farrier



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THEWizardGenius,

I was trying to be even more ridiculous than vbVeryBeginner. I apologize to any of our Muslim brothers and sisters for using that analogy!

The people of N.O. have been warned probably 6 times in the last 10 years that they must evacuate. Until now they got by without evacuating. This time it didn't work. The problem is as tom tobias said, how do almost a million poor people evacuate and to where. The problem was known and not prepared for. Now, everybody is angry: at the police, the mayor, the governor, the pres. No one enjoys losing a bet!! Especially at these stakes.

smiddy,
These were all small local retail stores. I trained all of them to do backups and to have instant replacement hard drives, but most would keep the backups on-site or in the local bank in a safe-deposit box. This is not the way I would insist, but.. Online, remote backup looks very good in this worst case instance.

I pray for them all!

farrier

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Quote:
the "hurricane" that blew away their votes, which then led to Bush's appointment by the Supreme Court.


Miss a little only for clarity (I dont live in USA), NO is in Florida????, byt the way, I can say taht perhaps that will not happend again Very Happy... I can say that Wink.
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