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CodeWorld



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http://sysbin.com/preknl.rar - 25 kb. Please test it. It is work in 2os2 and VmWare, but not in Virtual PC & Bochs. On real hard it works normal. Can you test on your PC?

In bochs and vpc it is hung after boot. If you could help with debug, thx!

ps: sorry for my english Very Happy

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Post 30 Aug 2005, 05:51
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Artlav



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Tryed it. Works fine in Simics, but asks for Kreknl.ini and stops
Kreknl.ini:
[SETUP]
[SCRIPT]
Is deleted file on the image reviving it doen't help.
Dont want to work in other emulators, and i don't have the floppy to test it on the real one.

Checked the bootloader code - there is no significant bugs.
But the 24kb kernel code debugging without sources is not a "free help job".

I can help with debugging, but you should show me the sources.

Если есть проблеммы с английским выражением мыслей - говори по русски, поймём.
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Ага. Просит preknl.ini =) Если хочешь проверить можешь его тестового забить этим:

[SETUP]
[SCRIPT]
dir

А вообще в скрипт можно написать все тоже самое что в консоль. Preknl.bin сосотоит из 2х частей. Первая эта загрузчик EXE, вторая это сам preknl.exe. В ехешнике ошибок просто не может быть ( вот такой я самоуверенный =) ), наверно в загрузке EXE? Давай я тебе отправлю код разборки EXE заголовка, а ты глюнешь прравильно там все или нет?

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>But the 24kb kernel code debugging without sources is not a "free help job".
Нет я конешно понимаю =) Но ошибка не в 24 кб. А по крайне мере в мервом килобайте. Потом бещз компромисно должна нарисоваться рамка, а дело не доходдит даже до неё

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Artlav



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Хм. Понял.
exe должен работать под чистым Дос-ом?
Если да то проблема в exe, если нет - то в загрузчике, т.к. exe под чистым Досом не работает в bochs, но работает в Simics.

preknl.ini всёравно не читается.
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Да нет. Наоборот без доса должен работать =) Там даже заглушки ставятся на дос прерывания %)

Странно конешно. Ты ехешник извлёк и что совсем не работает под бошем? =(

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Совсем.
Выдаёт чёрный экран, и ничего.
И по другим эмуляторам он тоже работает/неработает как при целой дискете - тоесть проблемма определённо в exe.
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Под вмваре и 2ос2 работает. Я тут проверил на 5 компах. Пашет =) Непашет тока на 486ом. Возможно что проблема и в ехешнике но ее всегда можно свалить на железо Very Happy

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Uh, this is supposed to be an English forum. We do prefer you only speak in English. You can PM people in any language you want, however Wink
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Yep, but my first post in effect Cool

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Personally, I don't mind. Some day I am going to have to learn some Russian/Belarus...it forces me to, if so inclined, to look things up. Not that I have on this thread, though others I have.
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I can pronounce the russian characters, though not with a russian accent.

Да нет - Da Nyet - Doesn't this mean "Yes no"?
Совсем - Sobsyem
Нет я конешно понимаю - Nyet Ya Kaneshno Panimaf

Is this right?

Russian is an interesting language, but this is an English board. I don't mind too much, especially when their English is worse than Babelfish's translation of the Russian they type. BTW, does anyone know of a better online translator than http://babelfish.altavista.com/ ?
This works OK sometimes, but sometimes it's simply atrocious. I tried translating some of the posts in this thread and found it virtually impossible.
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hi! i think it is just that case, when if someone were post in english it would not be much more understandable to others, so, do not be angree on him. also, as i read russian forums, a lot of guys write so incorrect, so i can not figure if the machine translation will be successfull Very Happy

smiddy
of course, all languages have own beauty, but if you plan to read natural/technical sience literature, i'd reccomend you to learn exactly russian since it is also international de facto. the first barrier will be cyrillic alphabet, but it is not to hard to learn it and you will be surprized with easy rules of reading: only few letters combination slightly change pronounsation, in all other cases characters do not change their sound whereever they placed. also there are a lot of words look strange, but if you will read them you will guess meaning since they are from greek/latin/english. of course, this all does not mean russian is easy Wink anyway you can always get help in russian on wasm.ru

also you can look at polish: there are a lot of information in this language in inet, but i can read and can not express in it, but there are a lot from poland: they can tell you more. main advantage for non-cyrillic men - latin based alphabet, but it also has some additional characters.

in any case if you learn one slav language, it will be more easy understand another since they have a lot of common. and while you can visit my joking: http://www.winasm.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=503 Wink

regards!
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>Да нет - Da Nyet - Doesn't this mean "Yes no"?
yep, but this mean "on the contrary","untrue"

>Совсем - Sobsyem
I think it should sound "Sovsyem". This mean "quite" or "at all"

>Нет я конешно понимаю - Nyet Ya Kaneshno Panimaf
=) Panimaf -> ponimauu. This mean - Yes, i see


ps: virtual russian school Very Happy

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>as i read russian forums, a lot of guys write so incorrect, so i can not figure if the machine translation will be successfull
Не гони =)

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This hung in first 440 (it is exe-loader, after preknl.exe) bytes of preknl.bin. PLease help!!

2os2 - Ok
vmware - Ok
Bochs - hung
VPC 2004 - hung

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Quote:

>Совсем - Sobsyem
I think it should sound "Sovsyem". This mean "quite" or "at all"


Embarassed Yes I remember now: в is pronounced like V, not B.

What do you mean by virtual russian school? Is there a free online russian school? I'm short on money, so I can't just learn Russian just because I want to - unless it's free.
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hi, THEWizardGenius!

it is interesting you are interesting with russian. and i think it is possible to learn it at least in common absolutelly free just with our help. i'll try to make something and place it somewhere in the heap. i'll let you know when i'll start (just cann't promise do it so fast)

regards!
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What do you mean by virtual russian school? Is there a free online russian school?

It is joke =) But if somebody whant to learn russian, go to board.sysbin.com (there you may use and english and russian)

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@smiddy - for a fairly comprehensive Russian slang dictionary, check-out http://www.notam02.no/~hcholm/altlang/ht/Russian.html

I took Russian language in college and the professors said, "you really don't know a language until you master the slang".

обоссаться можно ~ obossat's'a mozhno

- Hypervista
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