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Matrix



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Help me,
i'm building a PCI oscilloscope/signal generator card, and i need specifications, standards, any information that could make it easier/more complete for me to succeed.
Any Help is greatly apprechieted, i'm serious,
i have already mirrored all freely available informations from the foloowing url's, if you can help, you can submit urls here, or if you could share large amount of data with me, you can PM me.

Code:
ASHLEY4 links:
<P><A href="http://www.electronicsforu.com/efylinux/efyhome/cover/PCIBusII.pdf">PCIBusII.pdf</A></P>
<P><A href="http://members.datafast.net.au/dft0802/specs.htm">specs.htm</A></P>
<P><A href="http://www.boondog.com/">boondog.com</A></P>
<P><A href="http://www.reed-electronics.com/ednmag/archives/1994/112394/24df3.htm">reed-electronics.com</A></P>
<P><A href="http://www.mameworld.net/emuadvice/pci.html">pci.html</A></P>

<P>From : <A href="http://www.pxisa.org/specs.htm">pxisa specs</A></P>

<P><A href="http://www.picmg.org">PICMG specifications</A></P>

<P><A href="http://www.ieee.org">IEEE specifications</A></P>

<P><A href="http://www.iec.org">IEC specifications</A></P>

<P><A href="http://www.pcisig.org">PCI specifications</A></P>

<P><A href="http://www.vxipnp.org">VISA specifications</A></P>

<P><A href="http://www.ivifoundation.org">IVI Specifications</A></P>

<P><A href="http://www.ziegler.desaign.de/GBA/gba.htm">Gameboy Extended</A></P>

    


of course i was looking everywhere for info-s.
currently i have gathered about 64MB s of docs.
Post 28 Oct 2004, 16:55
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Matrix



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i have finally got the "free" documentations about pci.
well... it is very free. i dont want to be rude.
pci scecs are free for all, you only have to pay a little postage and package fee of few thousand dollars.
Post 16 Aug 2005, 12:00
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MCD



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Matrix wrote:
you only have to pay a little postage and package fee of few thousand dollars.
This shouldn't be a problem for anyone, I guess. Rolling Eyes

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Post 16 Aug 2005, 12:39
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El Tangas



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In this link, the author said he had to discontinue offering the specs because PCI-SIG blah, blah...
http://members.datafast.net.au/dft0802/specs.htm

He did remove the links, however he "forgot" to close this directory:
http://members.datafast.net.au/~dft0802/specs/

You can get some more specs that are not linked from the links page. Wink
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Matrix



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oh thx for notice Smile
believe me i saw it too. Cool
yes there are some kind people who does this, but they often got kicked by the pcisig...

someone here knows if they can be copied by anyone and put on website?
i read they are free documents, what the ... pcisig thinks about then?
can someone verify i'm right?

somehow they are searching for those "free" documents they are offering,
i m sure they whould like to get that little amount of gold for post and package, handling...

i think i have more than enough now (~300MB) datasheets about PCI to start my project, anyway if i can i could put them up all.
Post 16 Aug 2005, 17:08
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El Tangas



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I know nothing about the legality issues, but I'm sure pcisig won't be happy, they'll send you threat mails, if that fails, they'll threat your webmaster or internet provider. Thats what "they" usually do...

I've been searching for pci specs for the last hour or so and concluded that pcisig seems to use google as search engine, all google hits seem to be broken... However, from some broken google links I obtained the file names and a msn search yielded:
http://www.pcbtech.ru/doc/pci/

So, I'm sure it would be very usefull for many people if you put your documents online, but maybe you should change the document names or something to make them more difficult to find by pcisig.
Post 16 Aug 2005, 17:50
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hm, sure, because google is the biggest search engine,
in site you found, yes pci specs 2.1 is on it.
btw you whould need these pci things too?
im sure we are some here who need full docs on hardware.

where to ask about this legalty issue?
they cannot fear me with anything if i have right to redistribute.
this whould mean i can put them anywhere, give them to anyone.
Post 16 Aug 2005, 18:37
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Well, I don't really need the pci info, I just keep it out of curiosity and only from a software/programming side, the hardware stuff, well, I'm no electronics expert.

The legal part, you can ask pcisig. What I think is, the standard is open, you can use it, but it is copyrighted, so you can't make copies without pcisig authorisation.
Post 16 Aug 2005, 19:10
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i have asked intel about the status of pci specifications,
they told me:

Materials are copyrighted and are protected by worldwide copyright laws and treaty provisions. They may not be copied, reproduced, modified, published, uploaded, posted, transmitted, or distributed in any way, without Intel's prior written permission. Except as expressly provided herein, Intel and its suppliers do not grant any express or implied right to you under any patents, copyrights, trademarks, or trade secret information. Other rights may be granted to you by Intel in writing or incorporated elsewhere in the Materials.

this means who have copyrights, have right to copy it and charge money for them. (like pci-sig)
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"PCI System Architecture" by Tom Shanley, Don Anderson
Part of the Mindshare, Inc. series
Publisher: Addison-Wesley Professional; 4 edition (June 10, 1999)
ISBN: 0201309742

Excellent book about the PCI spec. I highly recommend it.
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