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DataHunter2009



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I have to admit, I went a bit far. But in the end, I got my point across. Razz
Post 13 Aug 2005, 01:47
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Night Rider



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Maybe they mean operating surround, not system?
Post 13 Aug 2005, 13:42
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"You know what that does? Do ya Do ya? NO! You don't! I'll tell you... " \Let's get'em! Yeah!!!!!
Post 13 Aug 2005, 13:43
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DataHunter2009



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The line that came after that was my favorite "I'll tell you... before you idiots wet yourselves in awe". Razz Looking back now, I actually had no reason to yell, except that they were being complete idiots about the whole thing. People have been trying to tell everyone on that forum that suboses suck, but they don't listen when you tell the nicely. So I figured a good scolding would do the trick... but thise people are some persistant little idiots. Razz
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lol, how stupid. I love arguing too Razz
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Now they have a SubOS forum: http://www.subosdev.tk/

How stupid is that?

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Post 14 Aug 2005, 18:23
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Yeah. I was looking over that too. It's amazing how kids can have such large imaginations. Razz
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I flamed the h311 out of them in the Forum Rules subforum of http://www.subosdev.tk/ . They had no other subforums specifically for flaming (they should, they probably get at least 3 billion flames per day Laughing ) so that's where I posted. I tried to be nice, but in the end I decided to tell them how stupid the SubOSes are.

Well, they asked for it Twisted Evil

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lol. I was the guy who replied. Razz Maybe we can get 'em to close down... if we make 'em mad enough. lol.
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Tomasz Grysztar



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I don't see any point in flaming them - if they learn more they will notice themselves why the things they were doing were "weird". However at their current level they may still learn a lot even from what appears to you as stupid and useless. Well, they may also never learn any programming advanced enough to get out of this "niche", but instead of flaming, it would be actually wiser to try to lead them in the direction of learning more. And paradoxically in the beginning it might even mean helping them in writing those projects, that appear so stupid to you. And if you are not able to help them without offending them, it's better to use this time for your own work, hoping there will be some people able to appreciate it.
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smiddy



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Tomasz Grysztar wrote:
I don't see any point in flaming them - if they learn more they will notice themselves why the things they were doing were "weird". However at their current level they may still learn a lot even from what appears to you as stupid and useless. Well, they may also never learn any programming advanced enough to get out of this "niche", but instead of flaming, it would be actually wiser to try to lead them in the direction of learning more. And paradoxically in the beginning it might even mean helping them in writing those projects, that appear so stupid to you. And if you are not able to help them without offending them, it's better to use this time for your own work, hoping there will be some people able to appreciate it.


You never cease to amaze me, well said! Cool
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DataHunter2009



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Actually... when you put it that way, I kinda see what you mean...
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THEWizardGenius



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Good point... it looks really stupid, but maybe they think we're stupid, for saying it's stupid...
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Yeah... but what breed of idiot calls a programmer stupid when we can do much more than they can? That's just crazy. Razz
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shoorick



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hi guys! excuse me for offtop: so, when we will start to write bootloader?
by the way, i just wrote something: this loaders just load itself 512 bytes later and prints string from there. although there are many ready sources i try to exercise and use only my old techhelp to do this. so, you can try it also. (do not say it is best, just works Wink )

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well first error was of wrong usage of qemu: i've been passing image as hda (was enough to load boot sector) - now as fda, and then was disk error because i did not used passed drive number - but hard zero, and could not recognize error cause i've been printing al while error code returns in ah - this fixed Smile


Description:
Filesize: 1.79 KB
Viewed: 3634 Time(s)

step1.gif


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Filename: dir_list.11.zip
Filesize: 6.81 KB
Downloaded: 167 Time(s)


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Post 16 Aug 2005, 21:22
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shoorick



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oh, i already found there errors, but will fix them next time Smile - done
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bubach



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About my bootsector, the FAT12 loading is a bit slow, and maybe unstable.
My current bootsector have FAT12 code (fast and working) by John Fine.
Maybe I should add pmode and a20 to that one and post it for you? (since I do not longer have the need of going into pmode or setting a20 in the bootloader myself)

/ Christoffer
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THEWizardGenius



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If you wouldn't mind, that would be nice. However, I may go back to using a real mode bootloader so I can detect installed memory and things like that, from the kernel.
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tom tobias



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Sorry for my confusion: are you writing to suggest that one cannot examine "installed memory and things like that" FROM PROTECTED MODE?
Confused
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bubach



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No, thats why he wrote a "real mode bootloader" which means that the kernel would start in realmode.

[EDIT] i thought you said "can" instead of "cannot"


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