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Tommy



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Tommy 09 Feb 2007, 13:17
Visual Basic .NET Express?
VB 5 CCE?
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Raedwulf



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Raedwulf 09 Feb 2007, 14:08
Vasilev Vjacheslav wrote:
nop, it's faster to write something in visual basic but i don't use it, because i dislike it's p-code, VM and it's not so easy to control vb-program in debugger


It also has Native-Code Compilation which is a hacked up MSVC 5/6 compiler to produce pretty ugly compiled VB code.
Unless thats what you mean by it's not so easy to control vb-program in debugger.

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Vasilev Vjacheslav



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Vasilev Vjacheslav 09 Feb 2007, 15:33
Raedwulf, try to debug p-code
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f0dder 09 Feb 2007, 15:38
Vasilev Vjacheslav wrote:
Raedwulf, try to debug p-code

You mean crack, don't you? Smile

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Vasilev Vjacheslav



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Vasilev Vjacheslav 10 Feb 2007, 09:33
yes, it is Smile
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Picnic



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Picnic 07 May 2007, 19:36
I used PureBasic 4 for a couple of months. I was really impressed by the software, it's a very powerful tool for Windows programming, great manual, thousands of code examples on internet, but not free.
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DOS386



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DOS386 08 May 2007, 10:51
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I was really impressed by the software


Me too. Laughing

- Installer does NOT crash
- From 3 EXE examples I tested all 3 crashed immediately at start both in DOS and "Windows" Laughing
- Compiling the source did not work either

I'm quite sure that it is NOT my or my PC's fault: most examples from other compilers like FASM or FreeBasic do work for me, on "Windows", partially also in DOS Smile

There are good and there are bad compilers ... and there are ways to find out the truth Laughing
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Picnic 08 May 2007, 14:33
NTOSKRNL_VXE maybe you are right.
But i made a lot of small projects in PB4 and i had no problems. Everything worked fine on all my three PC's, on Win XP and Vista too !

Also, notice that many of the code examples from older versions won't run on PB4, they need small changes..
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Plue



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Plue 09 May 2007, 09:57
NTOSKRNL_VXE wrote:
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I was really impressed by the software

- Installer does NOT crash
- From 3 EXE examples I tested all 3 crashed immediately at start both in DOS and "Windows" Laughing
- Compiling the source did not work either
- PureBasic doesn't come with EXE examples, all examples are in source form.
- PureBasic can't compile for DOS, it is a native 32-bit compiler.
Did you even get the right product? Wink

Edit: This is the PureBasic demo: http://www.purebasic.com/download/PureBasic_Demo.exe

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OzzY 09 May 2007, 16:03
What are the demo limitations?
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DOS386



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DOS386 09 May 2007, 18:31
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What are the demo limitations


Low enough to make sure that included examples don't compile Laughing

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PureBasic doesn't come with EXE examples, all examples are in source form


Maybe I downloaded them from an "external" PB advertising page Laughing

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PureBasic can't compile for DOS


I know this. Idea

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is a native 32-bit compiler


Maybe ... but since 32-bit code from FB, FASM, MinGW, CYGWIN, even VC++
works in DOS for me your assumption "There are no 32-bits in DOS" might
be wrong Laughing

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Title: Hello World program compiles to 100 KB !!!

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Plue



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Plue 09 May 2007, 21:59
NTOSKRNL_VXE wrote:
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What are the demo limitations


Low enough to make sure that included examples don't compile Laughing
The following examples does not compile:
Win32_API.pb (requires API which is not in the demo version, this is written at the top of the file)
Sprite_SpecialFX.pb (requires API which is not in the demo version, simply remove ", #MB_ICONINFORMATION" (without the quotes))
SoundPlugin.pb (should compile)
PopupMenu.pb (uses API)
PackerProgress.pb and Packer.pb (API constant, follow same procedure as for Sprite_SpecialFX.pb)
DLLSample.pb (API constant, follow same procedure as for Sprite_SpecialFX.pb)
MDI ImageViewer.pb (should compile)
Desktop.pb (API constant)

All the other 64 examples compiles.

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PureBasic doesn't come with EXE examples, all examples are in source form


Maybe I downloaded them from an "external" PB advertising page Laughing
If a program written in C crash you don't blame it on the C compiler, do you?

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PureBasic can't compile for DOS


I know this. Idea

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is a native 32-bit compiler


Maybe ... but since 32-bit code from FB, FASM, MinGW, CYGWIN, even VC++
works in DOS for me your assumption "There are no 32-bits in DOS" might
be wrong Laughing
Well, you are wrong. Of course there is 32-bits in DOS, and no, code compiled for Windows doesn't work in DOS. Just because it's a black window doesn't mean it's DOS. Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Rolling Eyes

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DOS386 10 May 2007, 05:44
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program written in C crash you don't blame it on the C compiler, do you


Depends. But sure I suspect the compiler also, besides the developer,
the hardware, etc. Idea

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Well, you are wrong. Of course there is 32-bits in DOS, and no, code compiled for Windows doesn't work in DOS. Just because it's a black window doesn't mean it's DOS. Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Rolling Eyes


Thanks for 6 LOL's but you are wrong. Code compiled for
"Windows" does work in DOS (not all, but a nice amount of
useful code Smile ), and if it doesn't for you it means that you don't have DOS
and have not tried. And, I'm definitely the last one who would call the
NT console ("black window") "DOS". Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Shocked

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Bug Nr.: 12345

Title: Hello World program compiles to 100 KB !!!

Status: Closed: NOT a Bug
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Plue



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Plue 11 May 2007, 18:49
> Code compiled for "Windows" does work in DOS
Show me.
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DOS386 21 May 2007, 13:51
> Show me

http://www.unet.univie.ac.at/~a0503736/php/drdoswiki/index.php?n=Main.HX-DOS Shocked

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Title: Hello World program compiles to 100 KB !!!

Status: Closed: NOT a Bug
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Plue 22 May 2007, 19:55
NTOSKRNL_VXE wrote:
> Show me

http://www.unet.univie.ac.at/~a0503736/php/drdoswiki/index.php?n=Main.HX-DOS Shocked
That's not DOS, it's a DOS extender, not DOS. And the DOS extender is compiled for DOS. It's kind of saying that "my car goes faster than yours (if I change the engine, tires and interior)".

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questlima 28 Aug 2014, 15:37
ok this is a very old post but i have some questions i think PB is much
better than the other basic applications and one great thing about PB
is FASM Very Happy i was wondering why PB is so behind among all the basic programming tools even google does not link to PB if i search for a word BASIC
another good thing about PB is we can write codes for games and its very lite weight comparing to those apps like C# and thinking about writing games with ASM that's very scary Laughing sorry for my beautiful English anyway thank you

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