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snifit



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snifit 02 Jan 2005, 21:31
I'm using flat assembler 1.56 for Win32 GUI (the 14 December build) and found something interesting when compiling the "same" code (2 lines switched place).

Example one
Code:
format PE console
entry start

BUFSIZE         = 1024

section '.data' data readable writeable
  letter db 0
  buffer rb BUFSIZE

section '.code' code readable executable
  start:
        xor     eax,eax
        ret
    

When compiling this example it ALLWAYS takes 1536 bytes (the size of BUFSIZE does not matter)
BUFSIZE = 1024 => 1536 bytes executable
BUFSIZE = 10240 => 1536 bytes executable

Example two - bug?
Code:
format PE console
entry start

BUFSIZE         = 1024

section '.data' data readable writeable
  buffer rb BUFSIZE
  letter db 0

section '.code' code readable executable
  start:
        xor     eax,eax
        ret
    

As you can see the only difference now is that the "buffer" and "letter" line has switched place, and now the executable changes if you change the BUFSIZE!
BUFSIZE = 1024 => 2560 bytes executable
BUFSIZE = 10240 => 11776 bytes executable

I guess this is a bug, unless I've missed some important part Smile
And btw, if "letter db 0" is changed to "letter db ?" then both examples gets the same executable size (1024 bytes).
Post 02 Jan 2005, 21:31
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JohnFound



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JohnFound 02 Jan 2005, 23:06
No, it is not a bug. It is normal behaviour. The uninitialized data (i.e. declared with rb, rw, rd, rq or "db ?", etc. and when it is declared at the end of the data section (after all initialized data) will not be included in the executable file, but will be created directly in memory during loading of PE executable (remember this data memory is only reserved, it doesn't contains defined data).
So, in order to get minimal file size, you MUST place your uninitialized data at the end of the sections.

Regards.
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snifit



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snifit 02 Jan 2005, 23:10
Ah that explains it, thanks.
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Madis731



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Madis731 04 Jan 2005, 22:12
As you can see you have written code AFTER data, but you still have minimal size exe. In PE file code is right after the header and data is always at the back end, nice optimization Wink concerning size.
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Vasilev Vjacheslav



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Vasilev Vjacheslav 05 Jan 2005, 08:48
often uninitialized data placed in special section

Code:
section '.idata' data readable
   szTest db "test",0

section '.udata' readable writeable 
   szBuffer rb 1024
    
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