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What OS should i choose
linux
39%
 39%  [ 9 ]
menuetOS
21%
 21%  [ 5 ]
other...
39%
 39%  [ 9 ]
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gumletis



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gumletis 20 Dec 2004, 13:18
Hi im thinking about chaing OS, im both thinking about linux, or menuetOS. I have tree things i use my computer to, viewing the www, heaing music, and of course program in C/C++ OR FASM. And of course i wanna do programming in FASM there should be the same as win if it could be done? And please leave a comment

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ASHLEY4 20 Dec 2004, 16:09
The first two and 1/2 of the third things you want to do, will be hard to do on menuet.
For C programming linux is best, for other languages, other is best.

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gumletis 20 Dec 2004, 20:57
Yes i also say OR, becuase its FASM or c/c++, i wanna learn, but mostly FASM, becuase its so complex maded. So, i can't say how nice it are Very Happy
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f0dder 21 Dec 2004, 01:57
"For C programming linux is best" - not really, DOS with Turbo C was better - it's IDE + help was a lot better than what any Linux has now. And of course there's even better for Windows. And unless GCC has changed radically, vc2003toolkit is the most compliant free compiler (course intel is good and comeau is the best.)
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gumletis 21 Dec 2004, 15:34
Yes, but the i wanna program in FASM more then c/c++, im feeling better when i program in some fasm instead of C/C++.... But the problem is that i wanna program for linux, win....
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vid 22 Dec 2004, 19:28
for learning assembler (learning it really good) DOS is best and only choice, but you can have it as alternative OS.
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Diode 06 Jan 2005, 03:17
No offense, but I couldn't really make out what you were saying.

I could decipher that you are wanting a new system to use to listen to music and compile in C/C++ and Fasm.

I, too, am changing systems. I have used Winblows all my life, or as long as I've had PCs. I am sickened to the bone of the chronic problems that plague the worst OS ever written, and most commonly used.

I am upgrading my 7200/90 PowerMac which I am going to use as my main computer. Once it is all upgraded, I will then push my 1.6GHz Pentium 4 Dell out of the way. It is about 10 years old. Now people would commonly ask me why I would upgrade my 10 year old Mac.

Here's why:
1) It was free.
2) It can easily be upgraded. I just bought a $68 (US$) G3 400MHz upgrade card for it, taking over for the PowerPC 601 90MHz and now it is way faster.
3) I have on the way a dual USB 2.0, dual Firewire, dual IDE slot card. That would enable me to use my 160GB I have sitting downstairs because I can't use it. (I have so many hard drives and I can't fit anymore in my other PCs) as well as any other peripheral I would ever want to use.
4) I can cheaply upgrade it to 896MB RAM.
5) It's a Mac, so there's no way I would let it collect dust.
6) I tremendously prefer Mac OS 9 over any version of Winblows any day.

When it is all done, it would pwn my 866MHz Pentium III HP with Windows XP Pro that I have downstairs.

Now, while my G3 may be as powerful as an upper class Pentium III, people will commonly say, that it obviously is not more powerful than my Dell. This is the part most people don't understand why I would do it. And I tell them that I never said it is faster or more powerful than the Dell.

But here is why I am doing it:
Windows just plain blows. More and more people are realizing this, and making the transition. While I am aware that the PowerMac I have, with its given specs that I have economically chosen for it, is not as powerful as my 1.6GHz Dell, power is not the point here.

Stability and ease of mind is the point. When it is all done, it will run Mac OS 9 perfectly. No installation of Windows ever runs perfectly. While it may not be able to run Doom III, (actually I haven't even looked up on it, and I don't play computer games enough to care) it is intended to save me from all the headaches that Windows has caused me over the past many years. Very Happy

The ironic thing is, just 4 years ago, I didn't like Macs, or think too good of them. The reason is, in high school, there was a security feature on their Macs called At Ease. It drastically, and effectively, limited users to certain features controlled by the administrator of the computers. At that time, I didn't know enough about Macs to realize that you could do more on them. I thought that was all you could do, so I was like "What's the point?"

But after my Mac-fanatic friend liberated my mind, and showed me personally at his house just how powerful and innovative Macs are, as well as their stability and sheer efficiency, I was still reluctant to change, because, well, it would be a change in my mind about them. And most people don't like to change the way they think. But I could not argue the facts, and after several crashes later, I said "You know, screw this, screw Windows, screw Microsoft.", and then decided to upgrade my Mac.

It's disturbing how many people actually accept the problems associated with Windows as 'normal'.

Wow, I didn't realize I typed that much. Anyway, the reason I am posting, is to tell you to get a Mac. Very Happy The new iMacs are so sexy. Go to your local Apple store. My God they are so sexy. Anyway, get a Mac. And I would vote in your poll, but Mac OS is not an option you provided, and it deserves its own category besides 'other'.

If I were rich, I would buy you a dual 2.5GHz PowerMac G5.

Those are the most powerful personal computers in the world right now. That is probably equivalent to a 10GHz PC. You could also put like 8 gigs of RAM in it, and a 30-inch display, a display no PC can even power.

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f0dder 06 Jan 2005, 08:19
I remember when one of the libraries in our town had macs. This is a while ago, back when the internet was relatively new (HoTMaiL was a new service, people used telnet to connect to MUDs, etc.) so it probably wasn't MacOS v9 and there was certainly At Ease on the machines.

But christ those macs blew! Cooperative multitasking, meaning that one app could take the entire system down. And they crashed more often than the win9x box I had at home, which was quite amazing.

On the other hand, I've never had a system crash on a NT-based windows, which hasn't been caused by bad hardware, or a really unstable device driver (usually something I've written myself Wink). Perhaps I'm just lucky, but I have three WinXP machines running perfectly here Smile

(I really would like to play around with a decent mac running MacOS X, but nothing earlier than that... and definitely with a two-button mouse, thank you Wink).
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gumletis 06 Jan 2005, 15:22
don't need to upgrade, or any thing else, i don't play games, or use big programs, i just program, its the only thing i want to do, and i have a every old pc with windows 2k, and i hear music and program FASM in it, nothing else... Program is the only thing i want
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Madis731 07 Jan 2005, 13:49
Ok, here goes my opinion:
9x/ME series were NOT operating systems
I like linux, but for compatibility I'm using Windows
XP Home - what were they trying to do???
XP Pro was better, but SP2 - its like a new operating system, but this is the first time in my life I've seen HARDWARE have tags that it has XP SP2 compatible??????? What is this

I'm using 2000 and happy:D no crashes and 20day uptimes - and restarts only for hardware changes
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iklin 07 Jan 2005, 16:47
Win2k or maybe linux
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gumletis 07 Jan 2005, 17:08
.... okay... i also got win2k... And thinks what i going to use(plus of course always knoppix Razz)
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vbVeryBeginner 07 Jan 2005, 17:46
i use win95, em... changing... actually i am quite happy with
win95 + IE 5.5 + Tweak UI + Smooth Font + PSDK + Zibu + WinRAR + PSP 6 + FASM

coz thats all i really need.
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Madis731 07 Jan 2005, 21:36
I try to use all programs that are 1) FREE and 2) portable so in the future I won't have much trouble converting WIN-2-*NIX
Programs like FASM Very Happy, Gcc compiler, Mozilla all have Linux versions aswell. I'm just making a ground for a simpler trasition. Open Office is even better than M$s one, but its slower - anyway that is NOT the point.
You can move to ANY OS you want, but don't make it hard on yourself. Try to set your priorities right and decide what programs you need.

Like vbVB said - he satisfies with W95 ... maybe you'd have enough of MenuetOS.
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gumletis 08 Jan 2005, 10:05
... i also think, where to get menuet os?
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iklin 08 Jan 2005, 12:49
Menuet OS
- original English site - http://menuetos.org/
- Russain site - http://menuet.narod.ru/
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