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Bitdog



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I found an XBOX at the garbage dump & took it apart to see it's guts.
It was a P3 733 mhz basicly.....
Folks here in Alaska USA are throwing out P3 800 mhz computers
with 20 gig Udma-4 hard drives.
So programming for anything less than that these days seems pointless. (maybe?)
I mean, I hear folks that want their programs to run on 486 cpu's.
That's ok and all, but 486's arn't in use these days? (in my area anyway.)

I was chatting with a guy who does legacy (DOS) game level making.
He uses XP os but has a menu boot where he can choose his OS at startup.
Why can't an OS load a menu...... What do you want to run??????
1=real mode, 2=unreal mode, 3=Pmode, 4=etc
that would work wouldn't it?????????

Bitdog ( w/hangover ) (ouch) Sad
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ASHLEY4



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From a OS Dev point of view, there is little difference between a p2 233MHZ or a p4 2.7GHZ, as the parts we have to use like vesa, floppy, atapi etc, run the same.

And most people will only try new OS on old PC.

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Post 07 Feb 2005, 02:56
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bubach



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Why can't an OS load a menu...... What do you want to run??????
1=real mode, 2=unreal mode, 3=Pmode, 4=etc
that would work wouldn't it?????????

It would, but would you be willing to write three diffrent versions of all your code? Wink
No real need to support real/unreal mode. If done properly, a pure 32-bit OS could be as easy/fun (and even better) to program for as DOS. Very Happy

/ Christoffer
Post 07 Feb 2005, 09:56
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ASHLEY4



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bubach is right, if you have a flat memory address, and you have a full range of functions, a 32bit pmode OS could be easier and more fun than Dos Smile.
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Picnic



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Yes i know, its been 921 days since the last post, but i saw it today!
I'd like to add that i think that DOS is still in nowdays a great way to learn asm, and to expiremented with asm.
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Dex4u



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I wrote the above when i was called "ASHLEY4", I still agree with what i wrote and i hope to prove it with DexOS.
Post 17 Aug 2007, 22:42
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DOS386



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Since someone else BUMP'ed, I can also answer now Idea

Matrix wrote:

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Dos has not died


3 years ago ... still valid ?

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What about FREEDOS


GOOD (but 16-bit only, and poor source) Smile

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and DOS7.10


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IMHO, DOS is alive for programers, not for users...


To be fixed Wink

ASHLEY4 / Dex4u wrote:

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We need modern dos, 32bit pmode up to 4GB memory, run's in ring0, with full range of interrupts for programmers(not v86, but real pmode int ), thats what "Dos Extreme" is.


Exactly. Single-User, Single-Tasking, no GUI hard-merged into kernel, and no "paranoid" "security" "features" Laughing but full file I/O egalizing 16-bit DOS'es

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would of loved Freedos32 to be the answer


Unfortunately, some time ago the devels started implementing a V86-based NTVDM ( F32VDM ) into it, and then have gone ... joined XP community ... and even pushed MPXPLAY away from DOS Sad

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Post 18 Aug 2007, 05:44
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eek



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eek
I found this the other week which looks pretty good to me.

If anyone wants to peek at the download.
I put the GURU.EX file into my C:\ folder and let it search through every string in every file in my machine.

Looks pretty speedy to me, 32bit dos with no memory limits, and the syntax is like java.

http://www.rapideuphoria.com/
Post 18 Aug 2007, 09:58
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veach1



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So programming for anything less than that these days seems pointless. (maybe?)
I mean, I hear folks that want their programs to run on 486 cpu's.
That's ok and all, but 486's arn't in use these days? (in my area anyway.)


my brother is messing with ARM, he has three 486's connected into LAN under DOS (!!!)
- "why should I need something more, these three babes mekes for me all I need" - he says, and IMO, he is right

so 486's are still in use these days Smile
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DOS386



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> my brother is messing with ARM

ARM or ASM (or the ARMY Laughing ) ?

> he has three 486's connected into LAN under DOS

Maybe you could test compatibility of some my code occasionally ? Wink
Post 01 Sep 2007, 09:56
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Hayden



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DEMON wrote:
What are you think about significance of learning programing under DOS today?..


Windows OS still support execution of *.com files, wich can be very handy. That goe's for segmented MZ's too. Even though hardly anybody uses DOS as thier prefered OS, it's legacy still remains on the latest versions of windows Smile
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