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Mac2004



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Hi!

Is there any plans of implementing 64bit Fasm??

regards
Mac2004
Post 16 Sep 2004, 05:29
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silkodyssey



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Yes there is. Here's a link to an interview with privalov where he talks about fasm64.

http://www.wasm.ru/article.php?article=privalov_en

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Post 16 Sep 2004, 11:00
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1) Read http://www.wasm.ru/article.php?article=privalov_en

Quote:
- Will 64-bit mode be added to FASM?

It's in development, but currently a bit sustained, as I'm working on many other things at the same time. Also, as I said above, I'm considering that I will continue its development only as a commercial project.


2) There have been a few discussions about a 64-bit FASM, try the search feature on this forum to find them Smile
Post 16 Sep 2004, 11:17
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Mac2004



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Ok, thanx silkodyssey and crc!!! Smile

regards,
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Post 17 Sep 2004, 16:11
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crc wrote:
1) Read http://www.wasm.ru/article.php?article=privalov_en

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- Will 64-bit mode be added to FASM?

It's in development, but currently a bit sustained, as I'm working on many other things at the same time. Also, as I said above, I'm considering that I will continue its development only as a commercial project.


2) There have been a few discussions about a 64-bit FASM, try the search feature on this forum to find them Smile


Well I'll be happy to pay for it that's for sure Very Happy

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Post 18 Sep 2004, 04:25
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I am pretty sure there are already AMD64 or IA64 assembly.

through gcc or internal_use_intel, internal_use_AMD.

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Post 18 Sep 2004, 11:49
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gunblade



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Quote:
- Will 64-bit mode be added to FASM?

It's in development, but currently a bit sustained, as I'm working on many other things at the same time. Also, as I said above, I'm considering that I will continue its development only as a commercial project.


noooo, not commercial Sad
Post 21 Sep 2004, 12:03
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Tomasz Grysztar



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Don't worry, right now I'm planning to keep it freeware anyway.
Post 21 Sep 2004, 12:49
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bubach



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Couldn't you have some "support pack" to earn money?
In other words, keep the compiler free, but offer support and printed manuals to companies.


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Post 30 Sep 2004, 09:20
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penang



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[quote="fasm9"]I am pretty sure there are already AMD64 or IA64 assembly.

through gcc or internal_use_intel, internal_use_AMD.

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Actually, something is in the work. It's far from complete, and perhaps you can help out a bit, hint, hint.

http://cvs.tortall.net/projects/yasm/snapshots/latest/
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privalov
charge it for a minimal fee coz people won't appreciate free thing Smile
and i think, you deserve Smile money for your hard work Smile and time Smile
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crc



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Quote:
charge it for a minimal fee coz people won't appreciate free thing


I can't answer for everyone, but I appreciate free software.
Post 11 Oct 2004, 16:44
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scientica
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>coz people won't appreciate free thing
well... aren't the (most of the) OpenSource people? Razz
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em,
what is the last time a person give you his/her namecard. do you still keep it?

do you still keep the birthday card sent by your friend? last year or this year?

i guess, USD 10 or more as an appreciation fee (to show we do appreciate) is not a big deal :p

our money could help privalov to lead a better life, don't have financial problem, don't have to work, can code anytime he wants, enjoy his life in his way, don't have to work under a boss, don;t have to stress, having a standard lifestlye, em.... a lot more

i guess the idea is to get privalov to create more superb software, assembler, compiler, OS, and ... (i guess that is programmers' dream)

by the way, i really appreciate this superb assembler created by him Smile and i guess one of the way to show my appreciation is to promote his assembler Smile enchance his assembler with creative idea Smile

sincerely
sulaiman chang


*does appreciation completed with action?
Post 12 Oct 2004, 05:30
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crc



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Quote:

what is the last time a person give you his/her namecard. do you still keep it?

do you still keep the birthday card sent by your friend? last year or this year?


I still have birthday cards, valentine cards, etc from when I was five or six, so yes I do keep them.

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i guess, USD 10 or more as an appreciation fee (to show we do appreciate) is not a big deal


It is a big deal if it's a mandatory fee. I don't mind supporting projects that I use, but I try to stay clear of commercial software. I click on the ads from time to time, and if a donation system is added, I'll probably donate some money too. But to have a mandatory fee is not a good idea IMO.

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our money could help privalov to lead a better life, don't have financial problem, don't have to work, can code anytime he wants, enjoy his life in his way, don't have to work under a boss, don;t have to stress, having a standard lifestlye, em.... a lot more


Hmm... I doubt that there are enough FASM users to make that dream a reality. I could be wrong though. I think it'd be a shame to have FASM go commerical. (And given the open-source nature of the license, it's likely that someone would fork it and possibly make a free 64-bit version anyway)
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Quote:

I doubt that there are enough FASM users to make that dream a reality


i think, he just really need one person who is bilionaire and by the same time appreciate his hard work assembler Smile
Post 12 Oct 2004, 11:41
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MCD



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I don't prefer free over commercial software nor vice versa. But What is really important to me is that it is open source, so you can see what's actually in it, modify it to your own purpose and discuss with others about it.

The only problem is, that it is practically impossible to sell commercial open-source programs of that kind.

=>That would be something like: You are free to view, modify it and report improvements/bugs, but you must pay a fee of somewhat about $10-$30. This wouldn't work, since any user could pass the code to anyone else. No copy-protection will then really protect the software since any good coder could remove and recompile Smile!
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so how could the open source programmer earn some money to continue their life?

i guess the open source prorgrammer intention is to share their code, to show how they have solve the problem using their logic, to gain code correction & improvement from people.

but the reality is open source programmer need to eat rice too!
they need to buy a 64-bit pc in order to code open source stuff in 64 bit :p

how could they be helped? i don't know

what is ur suggestion?
donation?, i don't know how much donation privalov had received?
maybe he could let us know? maybe?
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MCD



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I know this problem for a long time, and I really mean that Privalov deserves money for his great work, but giving it only via donation is a bit like "begging".

I wonder where the www.xiph.org get their money, not only donation, I think they also get money from their merchandising-products.

I've got it! Privalov should open an Internet-Merchandising shop, with lot's of products related to Fasm, MenuetOS etc.. That would be nice! Wink

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Post 14 Oct 2004, 21:49
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I have a question,

Does FASM really capable of c or python?

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and many enemy around bloated software like java..
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