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sinsi 17 Mar 2023, 04:53
Nah, next step is signed exe's
They already do it with drivers    |
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Overclick 17 Mar 2023, 06:10
To sign own projects we need to register in Microsoft and use VS right? Can we create some blank signed project there that will expand fasm project?
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revolution 17 Mar 2023, 07:00
You need MS to sign executables. They won't give you their signing keys.
So that means you submit your exe to MS and ask them to sign it. I doubt this "service" will ever be $free. It isn't $free now for drivers. |
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17 Mar 2023, 07:00 |
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macomics 17 Mar 2023, 08:20
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17 Mar 2023, 08:20 |
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Overclick 17 Mar 2023, 16:00
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I'm looking for more detailed instruction. The only I found Red alert window where driver installing. The process of signing that kind of driver is free |
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17 Mar 2023, 16:00 |
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edfed 17 Mar 2023, 16:03
you can install unsigend drivers. it is really tedious but possible
but if exe is signed, how to execute a single built executable? should we ask for a signature each time we compile a program? |
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17 Mar 2023, 16:03 |
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revolution 17 Mar 2023, 18:20
Overclick wrote: I'm looking for more detailed instruction. The only I found Red alert window where driver installing. The process of signing that kind of driver is free If what edfed suggests does happen then it becomes just like Apple where only approved code is permitted to run, dev accounts cost $money, and end users are boxed into a single "store" providing everything. I imagine MS are very jealous of Apple and how they kept the entire app market for themselves.  |
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17 Mar 2023, 18:20 |
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sleepsleep 17 Mar 2023, 23:30
calling windows api become a service, you pay USD 0.10 per 10,000 calls, no more application and exe, everything is service and you pay when you consume, like water and power utilities,
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17 Mar 2023, 23:30 |
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revolution 18 Mar 2023, 00:52
Code: mov ebx,1000000 ; spend $10 .loop: invoke GetTickCount ; spend $0.00001 dec ebx jnz .loop |
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18 Mar 2023, 00:52 |
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sleepsleep 18 Mar 2023, 02:30
you can call same api multiple times, considered as 1 in every 5 seconds block, dont worry, ms not going to hurt your wallet,
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18 Mar 2023, 02:30 |
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Overclick 18 Mar 2023, 03:42
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Actually it is https://poradumo.com.ua/381282-iak-pidpisati-draiver-windows-10-8-1-i-windows-7-x64-i-x86/ But my question about complete process to sign by MS. Where and how to do that, where is the price? Requirements? |
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18 Mar 2023, 03:42 |
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sleepsleep 18 Mar 2023, 04:15
Overclick wrote:
1. Code signing certificate: 2. Driver development guidelines 3. Driver package requirements 4. Submission process 5. Fees $10 USD per submission |
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18 Mar 2023, 04:15 |
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revolution 18 Mar 2023, 04:16
Overclick wrote:
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18 Mar 2023, 04:16 |
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Overclick 18 Mar 2023, 04:35
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I see that Red alert drivers sometime. They used for virtual devices for some software or some moded drivers. Read alert appears once you install it. No need to disable sign checking for them. So it is works.
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revolution 18 Mar 2023, 04:37
That it isn't being signed. It is just marking it as an exception. Not the same as signing it.
You can't then copy the driver to someone else and have it work there. They would get the same problem and have to mark it in their system. |
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18 Mar 2023, 04:37 |
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edfed 18 Mar 2023, 16:33
maybe a sort of periodic capcha. like a random quiz or poll from mechandising copanies or government. and ads everywhere of course
free for the user, but valuable as a data source. |
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18 Mar 2023, 16:33 |
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Furs 18 Mar 2023, 18:26
edfed wrote: maybe a sort of periodic capcha. like a random quiz or poll from mechandising copanies or government. and ads everywhere of course |
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18 Mar 2023, 18:26 |
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edfed 18 Mar 2023, 23:39
Furs wrote:
never introduced the signing but just the future. maybe microsoft is in trouble and should impose a 'apple' 'fee' like system cause it's too easy to get a 'free' licence for their product. just look at the network traffic you have after winxp... it's just ridiculous, something like 'all your computer is fed back to them' for an obscure reason... |
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18 Mar 2023, 23:39 |
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I 20 Mar 2023, 01:28
Overclick wrote: I see that Red alert drivers sometime. They used for virtual devices for some software or some moded drivers. Read alert appears once you install it. No need to disable sign checking for them. So it is works. As for next step MS says my CPU is too old for W11 so maybe all out Linux. W8.1 already bit the dust for support and W10 not far behind. 
I wonder if W13 will be skipped for W14? |
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