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sultan alrefaei

Joined: 13 Sep 2022
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sultan alrefaei 13 Sep 2022, 08:12

Hello, I'm a new member to this forum . First of all, my English is poor, and I apologize if you have difficulty understanding me.

But I am looking for a source or a way to learn how to build interfaces through x86 assembly language by fasm

Preferably suitable for beginners.

In fact, I am a high-level language programmer, and I would like to expand my knowledge further by learning low-level languages and developing software and interfaces with them.

I am happy to get to know this beautiful forum and I really hope to find suitable help for me. I am very passionate about learning more and more, developing my skills more, and pushing my abilities to the limit.

thank you. Very Happy

13 Sep 2022, 08:12

revolution
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revolution 13 Sep 2022, 11:03

You can download fasmw which has the asm source code for the GUI IDE.

13 Sep 2022, 11:03

AsmGuru62

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AsmGuru62 13 Sep 2022, 14:45

User Interface is a very wide topic.
A simple dialog box with controls is a user interface --- FASM has a set of macro instructions to create dialogs.
A frame window with icons on the left side and a set of tabs on the right is a user interface --- well, you have to code those.
A frame window with a set of splitters, a toolbar, etc. is also user interface (Visual Studio like) --- you have to code those too.
Are you interested in all of those?

13 Sep 2022, 14:45

macomics

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macomics 13 Sep 2022, 16:45

AsmGuru62 wrote:

A simple dialog box with controls is a user interface

Code:

invoke MessageBoxA, HWND_DESKTOP, "My first user interface", "Hello world!", MB_OK or MB_ICONINFORMATION

13 Sep 2022, 16:45

Overclick

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Overclick 13 Sep 2022, 17:42

High-level language programmer suppose to do the same things via winapi LOL
sultan alrefaei Look at examples in Fasm folder.

13 Sep 2022, 17:42

sultan alrefaei

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sultan alrefaei 13 Sep 2022, 18:59

Thanks everyone for the reply..

I developed an interface through fasm and I used the correct functions to develop the interface, but there are parameters and things I want to know their meaning and why they are placed, so I decided to learn from scratch more clearly because I did not find a reference explaining all the parameters of the Windows user interface functions.

I hope it is clear, and I want to develop advanced interfaces such as those like Visual Basic.

I have sufficient experience in programming in general, but I want sources to clarify all functions and their parameters

Thanks

13 Sep 2022, 18:59

sultan alrefaei

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sultan alrefaei 13 Sep 2022, 19:06

Overclick wrote:

High-level language programmer suppose to do the same things via winapi LOL
sultan alrefaei Look at examples in Fasm folder.

winapi I did not find everything in it. There are things that I could not find in the basic references, and if they exist, they are not explained enough.

13 Sep 2022, 19:06

sultan alrefaei

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sultan alrefaei 13 Sep 2022, 19:10

AsmGuru62 wrote:

User Interface is a very wide topic.
A simple dialog box with controls is a user interface --- FASM has a set of macro instructions to create dialogs.
A frame window with icons on the left side and a set of tabs on the right is a user interface --- well, you have to code those.
A frame window with a set of splitters, a toolbar, etc. is also user interface (Visual Studio like) --- you have to code those too.
Are you interested in all of those?

Interested in developing interfaces that contain buttons, menus and multiple windows

13 Sep 2022, 19:10

sultan alrefaei

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sultan alrefaei 13 Sep 2022, 19:12

revolution wrote:

You can download fasmw which has the asm source code for the GUI IDE.

The link does not work

13 Sep 2022, 19:12

sultan alrefaei

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sultan alrefaei 13 Sep 2022, 19:16

macomics wrote:

AsmGuru62 wrote:
A simple dialog box with controls is a user interface
Code:
invoke MessageBoxA, HWND_DESKTOP, "My first user interface", "Hello world!", MB_OK or MB_ICONINFORMATION    

Thank you, but that's not what I'm looking for, I want a complete methodology for building advanced interfaces with multiple elements.

Like the ones on Visual Basic.

Thank you again

13 Sep 2022, 19:16

macomics

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macomics 13 Sep 2022, 19:27

Try ResourceView from the MSVS kit. Then it is called from resources very simply (via DialogBoxParam).

13 Sep 2022, 19:27

Overclick

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Overclick 13 Sep 2022, 20:09

You need some assembly IDE with Resource editor, RadAsm for example. Or separate editor even Visual. Then you include edited resources by
section '.rsrc' resource from 'yourResouces.res' data readable

13 Sep 2022, 20:09

DimonSoft

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DimonSoft 13 Sep 2022, 20:23

Guys, since I gave up using dialog boxes long ago due to the quirks with fonts and font-relative sizing, may I ask you how in general do you build dialog-based interfaces with Per-Monitor High DPI support? I mean, it definitely should be possible, but I seem to be too lazy to figure out how to build things up together to ensure it looks properly everywhere. Arbitrary font properties, resizing controls at runtime based on current dialog size, adjusting it to monitor DPI, etc.

13 Sep 2022, 20:23

Overclick

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Overclick 13 Sep 2022, 20:24

Quote:

Guys, since I gave up using dialog boxes long ago due to the quirks with fonts and font-relative sizing, may I ask you how in general do you build dialog-based interfaces with Per-Monitor High DPI support? I mean, it definitely should be possible, but I seem to be too lazy to figure out how to build things up together to ensure it looks properly everywhere. Arbitrary font properties, resizing controls at runtime based on current dialog size, adjusting it to monitor DPI, etc.

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13 Sep 2022, 20:24

sultan alrefaei

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sultan alrefaei 13 Sep 2022, 20:50

Overclick wrote:

You need some assembly IDE with Resource editor, RadAsm for example. Or separate editor even Visual. Then you include edited resources by
section '.rsrc' resource from 'yourResouces.res' data readable

The installation link for RadAsm is not working in GitHub

13 Sep 2022, 20:50

FlierMateI

Joined: 12 Sep 2022
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FlierMateI 14 Sep 2022, 08:13

Is a typical Windows program with dialog box always look like this?

Code:

GetModuleHandle
LoadIcon
LoadCursor
RegisterClass,wc
CreateWindowEx

  msg_loop:
GetMessage
TranslateMessage,msg
DispatchMessage,msg
  jmp     msg_loop

(with or without dialog box resources)

I am beginner to Windows dialog box and found myself must get used to the above.

14 Sep 2022, 08:13

Overclick

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Overclick 14 Sep 2022, 09:44

Not, Dialog Box no need all of this. Simple DialogBox called by DialogBoxParam needs only few handles, proc name and ID from resources. The rest Windows doing itself, including message loop.

14 Sep 2022, 09:44

FlierMateI

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FlierMateI 14 Sep 2022, 11:54

Overclick wrote:

Not, Dialog Box no need all of this. Simple DialogBox called by DialogBoxParam needs only few handles, proc name and ID from resources. The rest Windows doing itself, including message loop.

Thanks for the useful information, Overclick.

As a beginner, looks like I don't know how to differentiate a window and a dialog box in low-level programming.

14 Sep 2022, 11:54

Furs

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Furs 14 Sep 2022, 12:15

FlierMateI wrote:

Overclick wrote:
Not, Dialog Box no need all of this. Simple DialogBox called by DialogBoxParam needs only few handles, proc name and ID from resources. The rest Windows doing itself, including message loop.

Thanks for the useful information, Overclick.

As a beginner, looks like I don't know how to differentiate a window and a dialog box in low-level programming.

Dialog box is a "high level window". It's not magic. It's a window with its own message loop (same with Message Box).

To be honest most of this thing has nothing to do with asm, it's just the Windows API you need to be familiar with. You can pick any Windows API guides/books to understand it. Obviously it's large and not something you can write in a few sentences.

14 Sep 2022, 12:15

FlierMateI

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FlierMateI 14 Sep 2022, 12:51

Furs wrote:

It's a window with its own message loop (same with Message Box).

That explains a lot about GUI in Windows. I appreciate your informative reply.

Furs wrote:

To be honest most of this thing has nothing to do with asm, it's just the Windows API you need to be familiar with.

Since it is just Windows API, I think it will be faster to write in C++ than in Assembly, also I found most code examples from Microsoft website in Win32 API is C++.

14 Sep 2022, 12:51

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