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fasmFUN

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fasmFUN 19 Aug 2020, 13:39

hey all.
are macros that can do expression evaluation supported ?
maybe something like this http://masm32.com/board/index.php?topic=94.0 ?

19 Aug 2020, 13:39

DimonSoft

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DimonSoft 19 Aug 2020, 14:45

It’s not clear where on the page is the feature you’re asking for. There is some support for calculations in FASM macros but generally assembly-time features are enough for calculations.

19 Aug 2020, 14:45

bitRAKE

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bitRAKE 20 Aug 2020, 01:32

fasm can solve basic algebra at assemble-time. And fasmg even more powerful. Given the 35 page post at the forum, it seems like you are looking for a code generator, though. If that is the case, why not just use a compiler then? A far more powerful tool for code generation.

20 Aug 2020, 01:32

fasmFUN

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fasmFUN 22 Aug 2020, 17:35

bitRAKE wrote:

it seems like you are looking for a code generator, though. why not just use a compiler then?

SO from your question i GUESS that the answer is: 'NO it's NOT possible. look for a better assembler.'

22 Aug 2020, 17:35

bitRAKE

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bitRAKE 22 Aug 2020, 19:38

I'm glad you are able to get around to what you are trying to say.

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22 Aug 2020, 19:38

revolution
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revolution 22 Aug 2020, 23:42

Expression evaluation is native in the assembler. No need for a macro to do it.

Code:

mov eax, 1 + 2 * (3 + 4)

22 Aug 2020, 23:42

fasmFUN

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fasmFUN 26 Aug 2020, 21:18

revolution wrote:

Expression evaluation is native in the assembler. No need for a macro to do it.
Code:
mov eax, 1 + 2 * (3 + 4)    

and with variables ?

26 Aug 2020, 21:18

revolution
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revolution 26 Aug 2020, 22:50

fasmFUN wrote:

revolution wrote:
Expression evaluation is native in the assembler. No need for a macro to do it.
Code:
mov eax, 1 + 2 * (3 + 4)    
and with variables ?

Yes. fasm is multi-pass and it can solve many expressions with variables or constants. Try it.

26 Aug 2020, 22:50

fasmFUN

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fasmFUN 03 Oct 2020, 18:06

Quote:

Yes. fasm is multi-pass and it can solve many expressions with variables or constants. Try it.

i found that it can not do complex expression that evaluate to more than one instruction

03 Oct 2020, 18:06

DimonSoft

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DimonSoft 03 Oct 2020, 19:49

Example required.

03 Oct 2020, 19:49

fasmFUN

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fasmFUN 10 Oct 2020, 20:01

DimonSoft wrote:

Example required.

yes. do you have one ?

10 Oct 2020, 20:01

Furs

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Furs 11 Oct 2020, 16:55

fasmFUN wrote:

i found that it can not do complex expression that evaluate to more than one instruction

Expressions evaluate to numbers, not instructions. Whether you conditionally emit instructions based on that number after (with if) is a different matter.

11 Oct 2020, 16:55

DimonSoft

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DimonSoft 11 Oct 2020, 17:24

fasmFUN wrote:

DimonSoft wrote:
Example required.

yes. do you have one ?

Example of what you were looking for.

11 Oct 2020, 17:24

fasmFUN

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fasmFUN 15 Oct 2020, 01:12

Furs wrote:

fasmFUN wrote:
i found that it can not do complex expression that evaluate to more than one instruction
Expressions evaluate to numbers, not instructions. Whether you conditionally emit instructions based on that number after (with if) is a different matter.

but first they evaluate to asm instruction
anyway the meaning is that the compiler can handle only simple expressions
for examples:
mov eax,1*2+(3/4)
is a very simple expression because it evaluate to single asm instruction

this one:
mov eax, bb(n,2,3)

is complex because it should be evaluated to several instructions
which what i'm looking for from the compiler
at least with macros
as in the example link on top of thread

15 Oct 2020, 01:12

revolution
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revolution 15 Oct 2020, 03:19

fasmFUN wrote:

this one:
mov eax, bb(n,2,3)

is complex because it should be evaluated to several instructions

What do you need it to assemble to?

This?

Code:

mov eax,bbn
mov eax,bb2
mov eax,bb3

In fasm this type of thing can be done with irp

Code:

irp v,n,2,3 {
  mov eax,bb#v
}

You could also wrap it in a macro to override mov.

Show us what you want to do and it can probably be done.

15 Oct 2020, 03:19

Tomasz Grysztar

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Tomasz Grysztar 15 Oct 2020, 09:50

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I suspect this thread is actually about inline macros.

15 Oct 2020, 09:50

fasmFUN

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fasmFUN 17 Oct 2020, 16:29

revolution wrote:

fasmFUN wrote:
this one:
mov eax, bb(n,2,3)

is complex because it should be evaluated to several instructions
What do you need it to assemble to?

This?
Code:
mov eax,bbn
mov eax,bb2
mov eax,bb3    
In fasm this type of thing can be done with irp
Code:
irp v,n,2,3 {
  mov eax,bb#v
}    
You could also wrap it in a macro to override mov.

Show us what you want to do and it can probably be done.

no ,
very SIMPLE example
from this->
mov [a],bb(n,2,3)+1
to this->
push n,2,3
call bb
add eax,1
mov [a], eax

and even more HL
a = bb(n,2,3)+1

also in if statement

if bb(n,2,3)+1>1 then ...

17 Oct 2020, 16:29

fasmFUN

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fasmFUN 17 Oct 2020, 16:37

Tomasz Grysztar wrote:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I suspect this thread is actually about inline macros.

thank you very much very interesting.
now i need to look for such examples.

17 Oct 2020, 16:37

DimonSoft

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DimonSoft 17 Oct 2020, 19:04

fasmFUN wrote:

no ,
very SIMPLE example
from this->
mov [a],bb(n,2,3)+1
to this->
push n,2,3
call bb
add eax,1
mov [a], eax

and even more HL
a = bb(n,2,3)+1

also in if statement

if bb(n,2,3)+1>1 then ...

So, why are you asking low-level language to be a high-level language? I guess, choosing the right tool for each set of requirements is the way to go.

17 Oct 2020, 19:04

Furs

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Furs 18 Oct 2020, 12:26

fasmFUN wrote:

revolution wrote:
fasmFUN wrote:
this one:
mov eax, bb(n,2,3)

is complex because it should be evaluated to several instructions
What do you need it to assemble to?

This?
Code:
mov eax,bbn
mov eax,bb2
mov eax,bb3    
In fasm this type of thing can be done with irp
Code:
irp v,n,2,3 {
  mov eax,bb#v
}    
You could also wrap it in a macro to override mov.

Show us what you want to do and it can probably be done.
no ,
very SIMPLE example
from this->
mov [a],bb(n,2,3)+1
to this->
push n,2,3
call bb
add eax,1
mov [a], eax

and even more HL
a = bb(n,2,3)+1

also in if statement

if bb(n,2,3)+1>1 then ...

Sounds like C with inline asm is what you want.

18 Oct 2020, 12:26

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