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Manos



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Manos 28 Aug 2003, 08:04
Idea

Hi All.

I am building a full visual IDE for Fasm,
with name:FasmStudio
This is the skeleton.

Manos.


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JohnFound



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JohnFound 02 Sep 2003, 17:14
Manos wrote:
Idea
Hi All.
I am building a full visual IDE for Fasm,
with name:FasmStudio
This is the skeleton.

Manos.


Hi, Manos.
Why not, join to "Fresh" project?
It's our atempt to build full visual RAD IDE for FASM.
You can download the pre-alpha version on this board.
It is big and complex project and every good assembler programmer like you is welcome in the team.
Why to pull in different directions?
Let's work together!
Smile

Regards.
John Found
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Betov



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Betov 02 Sep 2003, 20:09
Hi! JohnFound!

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JohnFound 02 Sep 2003, 20:28
Betov wrote:
Hi! JohnFound!

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Hi, Betov! How are you? Very Happy I am without my own computer just now and this is sad Sad
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Manos



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Manos 02 Sep 2003, 20:56
Hi JohnFound.

I had downloaded yours Fresh IDE before i start building my FasmStudio.
Fresh is a big project and you have done much work on it.
But the style that you use is different from style that i like.
I prefer MDI style.
I am familiar with VisualStudio.
Also,the several windows of Fresh works oddly.
When i close any of these,unmask the desktop.
Also,the code editor has some disadvantages.
Therefor i choosed to make an IDE diferent,using RichEdit.
This is the only one target.
I have not the purpose to decrease yours work.
I could like to work together,but you have done already much work
and we must begin from the start.
This is my opinion.
Tell me your opinion.

Regards,
Manos.
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JohnFound 02 Sep 2003, 21:35
Manos wrote:
Hi JohnFound.
I had downloaded yours Fresh IDE before i start building my FasmStudio.
Fresh is a big project and you have done much work on it.
But the style that you use is different from style that i like.
I prefer MDI style.
I am familiar with VisualStudio.
Also,the several windows of Fresh works oddly.
When i close any of these,unmask the desktop.
Also,the code editor has some disadvantages.
Therefor i choosed to make an IDE diferent,using RichEdit.
This is the only one target.
I have not the purpose to decrease yours work.
I could like to work together,but you have done already much work
and we must begin from the start.
This is my opinion.
Tell me your opinion.

Regards,
Manos.


So, of course you have the freedom to write any software you want. But I still think that you can work with us without problems.
Actually Fresh is SDI (single document interface) application. It's hardest to write big SDI application, but SDI style have many advantages. (Some of this advantages will be realized after many versions - for example docking of the tool windows.) Just now the common behaviour of Fresh is not very good, so you can't feel the full power of this kind of program style.
Also, the Fresh project is not "one person project" It is opened for suggestion and the main goal is Fresh to become comfortable for as many people, as possible.
Concerning, that we have done much work, I think this is not very important, because Fresh is highly modular project, so you can work on your part of the project before you know every other module in details, but only common structure of the program.

So, at the end: It's your decision. No one can make it for you. But I (and I think Tommy and Scientica too) will be glad if you become part of the Fresh team.

Regards.
John Found
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Betov



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Betov 02 Sep 2003, 21:39
Oh! Sorry for joking you about "Why to pull in different directions? Let's work together! ", at a time you are deprived of Computer, John. I really hope the things are going to be soon fixed, with this, for you.


Betov.
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CoDe_Inject



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CoDe_Inject 03 Sep 2003, 15:50
Manos:
can you put the whole project here? or some 'run' fasmstudio? i like your style.but not user richedit radedit and asmedit is so great and easy to use.

JohnFound:
is you prefer sdi?same as borland ide,but you can see the borland now make there ide to mdi?so use mdi styles. Very Happy
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Manos



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Manos 03 Sep 2003, 16:12
Hi CoDe_Inject.

I await Privalov to adapt the resource macros,so that these will be
compatible with MASM and C.
After, i 'll start to build FasmStudio and i 'll put it here.

Regards,
Manos.
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JohnFound 03 Sep 2003, 16:14
CoDe_Inject wrote:

JohnFound:
is you prefer sdi?same as borland ide,but you can see the borland now make there ide to mdi?so use mdi styles. Very Happy


Actually I think SDI application is better for IDE with many tool windows (project manager, object inspector, many windows in the forms editor, source editor with ten files opened etc. etc.) IMHO MDI interface works better with many similar style windows. At second, when I use MDI interface I maximize the current MDI child window, so I can't see any other window. But what about tool windows? So, pure MDI is simply implosible for this kind of programs. Even when we try to make Fresh MDI it will become SDI application with MDI source editor. But In other hand, I like tab navigation in source editor (and I think many people like this kind of navigation). You can see that even FASMW was MDI, and later evolve to SDI application with tabbed source editor.

BTW: I saw Borlad's Delphi 6 and it's still SDI. For what Borland's IDE you are talking about?

Regards.
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Pharabee 24 Nov 2003, 11:05
Smile Hi. Can the FASM Studio used with non-Win32 project? Some people use FASM for Dos right?

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Manos



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Manos 24 Nov 2003, 19:57
Yes of cource.
But I don't finish the FasmStudio yet.

Manos.
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coconut



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coconut 02 Apr 2004, 22:58
i think the visual studio interface is most comfortable to work with. i do like fresh's interface somewhat, but i think it could use some cleaning up; perhaps making the main window smaller. it has so much empty space
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iklin



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iklin 05 Apr 2004, 16:13
Manos wrote:
Hi CoDe_Inject.

I await Privalov to adapt the resource macros,so that these will be
compatible with MASM and C.
After, i 'll start to build FasmStudio and i 'll put it here.

Regards,
Manos.


Why you must waiting for? You always can compile resources with your favorite res compiler and include it in fasm source! Look into fasm faq!

And start for coding!

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Manos



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Manos 06 Apr 2004, 06:54
iklin wrote:
Manos wrote:
Hi CoDe_Inject.

I await Privalov to adapt the resource macros,so that these will be
compatible with MASM and C.
After, i 'll start to build FasmStudio and i 'll put it here.

Regards,
Manos.


Why you must waiting for? You always can compile resources with your favorite res compiler and include it in fasm source! Look into fasm faq!

And start for coding!


OK.

I 'll continue.

Regards,
Manos.
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Vortex 06 Apr 2004, 18:24
Manos,

Nice idea of planning an IDE for FASM similar to Visual Studio.

I have a question, will your IDE support using external linkers for Fasm?

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Manos



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Manos 07 Apr 2004, 06:38
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Manos,

Nice idea of planning an IDE for FASM similar to Visual Studio.

I have a question, will your IDE support using external linkers for Fasm?


Hi Vortex.

These days I am working on GenericGrid to finish this.
After,I 'll try to build the FasmStudio.
I want to build a massive work that will include the FASM in an .exe.
I don't know what problems will be appears on the path.

Regards,
Manos.
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coconut



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coconut 07 Apr 2004, 20:51
how about just adding on a couple of features to fasm's win32 editor, it does the job
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coconut 13 Apr 2004, 04:17
id like to see a toolbar on fasm's editor, and also "select all" in the edit/right-click menu
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