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Tomasz Grysztar 04 Aug 2004, 09:14
Yes, 8 was revision 4, because there was no revision with 6 seconds, only 0,2,4,8 and now 10 (though sometimes I would use 16 instead).
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Tomasz Grysztar 04 Aug 2004, 12:01
And the current revision has 12 seconds - I considered the virtual blocks too, and this way got still a few passes less when assembling Fresh.
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scientica 04 Aug 2004, 13:04
IMO the best way to denote versins+"subverions" is the *nix defacto stanard convension for versioning:
1) Major.Minor.Build-release (sometimes Build is used as an "minor.minor" version or omitted, the relase tag is mostly used by rpm packets) or why not the kernel way: 2) Major.Minor.Release-extraversion, where the minor denoted stable/development (odd=dev, even=stable, the Major nly changes when something "big happens") IMO 1 siuts the ok for fasm, eg, we'd now be having release 1.53-3 (if I haven't lost my count). IMO 2 is better(best, since this new algo can be tested in a controlled manner - eg: release 1.54 (the current 1.53-3 or 1.53-2 (without the new algo)) make 1.55 is the current development version, 1.55.1 would be next development version - which contains fixups (bitwise;))or new features to test. once the new features have gotten "tried and true"/"stable" you could release 1.56, or if the change is minor, release 1.53.4 - which is (then) the latest stable version. This way people can use the "tried-and-true"-stable version without having nightmares over the newest feature ![]() and about the "-extraversion", eg, 1.53.3-sci (or 1.53.3-perm or 1.53.3-up ) could be the "unsafe permissions" patched branch ![]() |
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Tomasz Grysztar 04 Aug 2004, 13:16
I'm attached to tradition.
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decard 04 Aug 2004, 13:47
but keeping release number only as seconds is just unconfortable
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Tomasz Grysztar 04 Aug 2004, 14:07
This is not really release number - it's a kind of mark just to indicate some version was compiled later, there never was any rule for it. I was always using it in case of small knick-knocks and cosmetic changes with sources and therefore my scripts handle it for me. But when the latest version is indicated to be older than a few days, you can be sure the "cosmetics" period has ended and you've got the really final one.
This is relict of past, but is comfortable for me - also, as I said above, the most of the useful reports I get after releasing "stable" versions, it always takes up to the week to finish with all those small updates then. |
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JohnFound 04 Aug 2004, 14:40
Privalov wrote: And the current revision has 12 seconds - I considered the virtual blocks too, and this way got still a few passes less when assembling Fresh. As "few" as double - from 18 to 9. ![]() But there are bad news too ![]() Regards. |
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Tomasz Grysztar 04 Aug 2004, 16:07
JohnFound wrote: But there are bad news too These are actually good news, I see many places in preprocessor that still would get improved a bit, so this is again something I can work on. |
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comrade 05 Aug 2004, 05:08
This is great!
Not only fasm now compiles a project in less passes (11 -> 4), but it makes smaller code too! I have compared outputs from 1.52 to 1.54, and found a few short jumps (<127 range) that were encoded as long jumps: Code: 1.52: 0F 84 7D 00 00 00 1.54: 74 7D So we can consider this not only an optimization, but also as a bug fix? I mean, 1.52 took 11 passes but still could not shorten the jump. Does the time also decrease? For me 11 pass compilation 1.52 and 4 pass compilation by 1.54 both took 0.7 seconds. Perhaps the project was not large enough. Thank you, Privalov! |
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Tomasz Grysztar 05 Aug 2004, 05:25
Yes, I have already written about it in my fourth post here. But I wouldn't call it "a bug fix", since there is no algorithm that could guarantee generating smallest code - it all need to be based on heuristicts, and this one just gives better results (I'd say: unexpectedly good, if I had known that such simple heuristic would give such large improvement, I would have implemented it at least two versions ago).
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Tommy 05 Aug 2004, 07:46
What can I say, outstanding...
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