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Tomasz Grysztar
Yes, the activity on this board has been slowly deteriorating over the past ten years. The times when it was possible to organize something like fasmcon are long gone.
And the most of activity that is left is from the people with "unconventional" mindsets, discussing things that have little to do with assembly. If you look only at the discussions on technical and assembly-related topics, then yes, the board is slowly but steadily dying. I think I managed to bring a tiny little bit of new life here with my fasmg project, but it was not enough, apparently. Still, I'm considering to propose another meetup in 2019 or 2020 to celebrate 20 years of fasm. If I start working on it early, maybe I can get at least a couple of people interested. |
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guignol
What's trinitek?
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zhak
This is probably because assembly in general becomes less and less popular. With all that cloud technologies and everything. Hobby OS dev boom also seems to fade.
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revolution
zhak wrote: Hobby OS dev boom also seems to fade. ![]() |
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YONG
Tomasz Grysztar wrote: Yes, the activity on this board has been slowly deteriorating over the past ten years. ![]() No more complaints. Just enjoy what is left in this board! ![]() |
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Trinitek
revolution wrote:
I remember talking about this thread, where NASM gets more attention than FASM in general, and from the FOSS community. This guy on Reddit has an idea why FASM is deliberately not included in the Debian repos (TL;DR source portability is an issue; since it's not in C as is everything else, it can't assemble on non-x86 systems). I suppose the question is... is this a problem? We've let interest in FASM wax and wane organically, but should we shoehorn interest through an effort to produce more auxiliary content, like major community projects or textbooks? Major projects like Menuet and Kolibri seem to have had a big impact in their day. Today, JohnFound's Fresh IDE and his web content engines are impressive, but they're not driving interest. |
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redsock
YONG wrote: No more complaints. Just enjoy what is left in this board! While I appreciate it is not in its "glory days", there are plenty of lurking people who are interested in what we have all done and are still doing. A decent population of the "heavyweights" around that don't speak much linger here often. My $0.02 thusly, cheer up I say! |
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Tomasz Grysztar
YONG wrote: When (i) the admin keeps turning a blind eye to legitimate suggestions on board improvements (...) redsock wrote: While I appreciate it is not in its "glory days", there are plenty of lurking people who are interested in what we have all done and are still doing. A decent population of the "heavyweights" around that don't speak much linger here often. Speaking of platform, this board's software is also really outdated. And I'm not even sure if migration to a new version of phpBB at this point would be possible at all, this board had some specific modifications that could get in the way. With the website now running on an assembly-powered server I thought that the best would be to move to a forum software written in assembly, like AsmBB, but JohnFound mentioned to me that his project is not ready to handle a board like fasm's. |
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redsock
I have been quite busy the last 6 months or so, but have some clear-skies ahead for scheduling during which I was going to attend to 2ton.com.au/HeavyThing updates. Perhaps if @JohnFound and/or others here were interested in a coordinated effort, I would be happy to donate time and code toward a mutually beneficial goal. I have been busy doing all sorts of embedded dev of late, ARM even @revo
![]() That being said, it would perhaps be worthwhile to consider literally transcoding phpBB (thus preserving archives) into a pseudo-static site framework (e.g. threads/posts with ETags, etc). There are manifold benefits of doing so. (All of 2ton.com.au is "static" but generated dynamically with a fasm site generator that I wrote but not-published similar to other tools). I'd be open to ideas/community effort re: this, the database/concurrency/high volume aspects would be a good few chapters of your book too, Tomasz ![]() Cheers |
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Tomasz Grysztar
redsock wrote: I'd be open to ideas/community effort re: this, the database/concurrency/high volume aspects would be a good few chapters of your book too, Tomasz ![]() |
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redsock
Tomasz Grysztar wrote: The one I wanted to write myself would focus more on teaching the assembly language in general (not only x86). ![]() |
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Tomasz Grysztar
redsock wrote: At first I cringed, only to find that their exercises are actually quite good for beginners. She has been coming to me squealing regularly about how many lines of code she has done with it. Would be a tremendous contribution to the assembly language community if one of us bothered to make something similar but instead of javascript it ended up being assembler |
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YONG
Tomasz Grysztar wrote:
URLs with () not rendered correctly https://board.flatassembler.net/topic.php?p=188088#188088 Hope that we don't have to wait another month, another year, or even another decade for the fix. ![]() |
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Tomasz Grysztar
YONG wrote: Yes, I do. Refer to the following thread: |
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YONG
redsock wrote: A decent population of the "heavyweights" around that don't speak much linger here often. ![]() |
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redsock
YONG wrote: how do you know that they often linger here? Hah, insert sound of crickets. It is not rocket science to learn of the companies that visit our websites, especially those who don't bother to hide behind Tor or other anonymising services. Most of the heavyweights (and I will fully concede that they are heavyweights by my own internal system of bias) do in fact lurk ![]() |
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Tomasz Grysztar
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YONG
redsock wrote: Would all those working at Cray Research, VMware, Oracle, Intel, AMD, etc please stand up and say g'day? But they may have employed many lazy (and lousy) assembly programmers who very often visit our website just to look for (partial) solutions to their job assignments. ![]() |
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rugxulo
Trinitek wrote: I've noticed that this board seems to catch a few interesting mental illness patients. All Internet discussions attract negativity. Haven't you ever read YouTube comments? Similarly, IMDB killed their forums entirely about a month ago (long overdue, it was really really bad). There is no "quick fix" for human misbehavior. I do agree that certain off-topic (dung) "Heap" posts are probably more incendiary than others. I do think the focus for users should be "mostly" on technical (computer-related) topics. There may be a small human need to socialize and interact with others, even shoot the breeze or discuss topical news, but overall I think it's a waste of time (and often devolves into nastiness). I'm not perfectly self-disciplined myself, but I do think 99% of that should be avoided in lieu of more neutral discussion and concrete/pragmatic/productive topics (like cpu software, algorithms, etc). If not software then at least something innocent and fun like music or video games (not politics or agendas or outrage culture, ugh). |
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