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Enko



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all i hate about it is when you distribute your app, if the target machine does not have the latest .net

Yes it really sucks, specially on a freash windows installed pc.
You trye to install the app, and it says... YOU NEAD .NET

Ok "men" I install the shit.
What shit? 1.1, 1.2, 2.0, 3.0? Becouse if you have 2.0 and the app uses 1.2 it won´t work. No backward compatibility.

So its just like you have to have all of them installed.


Bye the way, does somone remember when the Turbo Delphi came out about 3-4 years ago?

I downloaded the NATIVE API Turbo Delphi and what do you think?
The installator sad: YOU NEED .NET FOR THE IDE WORK PROPERY.
It was like OMG, WTF... .NET is needed to make NATIVE CODE? hilarious Laughing
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1+1=10

it just simply amazing what these 1 and 0 could do...how everything is so pure and elegant.

Then u see all the stupid shity concept human add into it and complex the whole simple issue.

It is about managing 0 and 1, why all the complexity...
Post 18 Jun 2011, 22:28
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Then u see all the stupid shity concept human add into it and complex the whole simple issue.


Well, to be fair, humans did come up with the 1's and 0's to begin with
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xleelz wrote:
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Then u see all the stupid shity concept human add into it and complex the whole simple issue.


Well, to be fair, humans did come up with the 1's and 0's to begin with

Well other humans, claiming to be making the road so that the wheel moves smoother, but they are re-inventing the wheel.
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i could foresee...
there is pretty big chance that HTML5 combines with JavaScript is coming into town soon.

maybe somebody out there should just kill OOP, it doesn't makes much sense.
all the stupid object class.
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sleepsleep wrote:
i could foresee...
there is pretty big chance that HTML5 combines with JavaScript is coming into town soon.

maybe somebody out there should just kill OOP, it doesn't makes much sense.
all the stupid object class.
You haven't worked on a lot of big projects, have you? And you don't know that people using larger amounts JS code actually emulate OOP ("prototype based inheritance") in JS?

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f0dder wrote:

You haven't worked on a lot of big projects, have you?

yah...

f0dder wrote:

And you don't know that people using larger amounts JS code actually emulate OOP ("prototype based inheritance") in JS?

it could probably because they are so attached into OOP that they might die if they couldn't use OOP.

i envision another kind of programming language that put focus on EVENT.
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sleepsleep wrote:
it could probably because they are so attached into OOP that they might die if they couldn't use OOP.
Or perhaps because it's a pretty efficient paradigm for a lot (not all) development tasks?

sleepsleep wrote:
i envision another kind of programming language that put focus on EVENT.
And events and oop are mutually exclusive? Heard about 'futures' and 'promises' btw?

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f0dder wrote:

Or perhaps because it's a pretty efficient paradigm for a lot (not all) development tasks?

idk and not so sure bout it, but what am sure is, things change, and it just impossible for them to remain like this for the next or coming 10 years or 30 years or so...

f0dder wrote:
And events and oop are mutually exclusive? Heard about 'futures' and 'promises' btw?

nope.

but what i mean is, the programming language would be constructed firstly based on its EVENT.
so, 3 states, idle, current, and future.
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Someone tried to use the .NET F#?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F_Sharp_(programming_language)

c#, now f#... the next whould be I#
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Enko wrote:

c#, now f#... the next whould be I#

or maybe ms says good bye to the whole .net? Smile
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sleepsleep wrote:
Enko wrote:

c#, now f#... the next whould be I#

or maybe ms says good bye to the whole .net? Smile

I don´t think so, with .NET they have lots of time for having fun until .WEB come out. Then we will have C bemol and otehrs...
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Enko wrote:

I don´t think so, with .NET they have lots of time for having fun until .WEB come out. Then we will have C bemol and otehrs...

maybe, but i wish .NET and OOP die... :p
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Microsoft is trying to F# us up!
Smile
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I see some guys are hardcore and do not like OOP.
I have OOP IDE coming - not soon, but in the works, so no one will use it?!
Awww....

Imagine OOP in its minimal set:

1. You can inherit objects one from another
2. You can override methods as needed

This plus just pure ASM code.
I think it will be great!
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AsmGuru62 wrote:

I have OOP IDE coming - not soon, but in the works, so no one will use it?!

link Wink screenshot and whats features?

let say a laptop (an object) where inside got several big object, LCD screen, hard disk drive, casing, DVD drive, keyboard, motherboard, speaker, touch pad etc.

now each of these object got another object, screws, plate, button, wire, USB port and etc.

then each of this object got another more object (more tiny) but still object.

so, eventually you end up with several hundred objects if not thousand.

imo, there should be another thinking/concept of programming instead of objectified perception.
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Enko



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I see some guys are hardcore and do not like OOP.

AsmGuru, I found the solution, but it wont compile....

FasmBoard = new CBoard(board.flatassembler.net)
malfunctioningObject = FasmBoard->SelectObjectByNick("sleepsleep");
delete malfunctioningObject;


VC++ says malfunctioningObject does not have a valid destructor.

Who was the crappy coder who created it?
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Enko wrote:
Someone tried to use the .NET F#?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F_Sharp_(programming_language)

c#, now f#... the next whould be I#


F# is interesting, combining functional and OO programming.
The same thing is also happening in the Java boat: Scala.

Lots of people think that functional programming languages like Haskell or Lisp are to "theoritical" to get things done.

Now FP is getting more mainstream (Twitter uses Scala on the back end, for example), and not just typical "math stuff" anymore Smile
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dot net.NET
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TmX wrote:
Now FP is getting more mainstream (Twitter uses Scala on the back end, for example), and not just typical "math stuff" anymore Smile
Multiparadigm for the win - use the language*S* that are(!) right for the task at hand instead of limiting yourself.

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