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Post 12 Sep 2015, 18:08
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MHajduk



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Thanks for the link, sleepsleep, I haven't heard about Garabandal apparitions. This is the first time I am getting to know about this place and the events that took place there.

The video you have mentioned here is interesting however there is another thing that attracted my attention - the name of this Spanish village. Words in various languages often expose something unusual from my perspective. I mean here especially toponyms (i.e. names of the places) and hydronyms (i.e. names of rivers, lakes etc. generally speaking, names of waters). If you try to speak them out loudly they may sound familiar or, just the opposite, absolutely exotic.

Since the moment I read the name 'Garabandal' here I have started to think about it and repeated it in mind many times for the last 24 hours. At first I thought it must be taken from some "exotic" language like Arabic or Phoenician but finally have come to the conclusion that it must have been something much closer to Germanic languages.

Most of the toponyms in the Iberian Peninsula originated from a few languages presented here in chronological order:
  • Basque

  • Celtiberian

  • Phoenician

  • Latin (in most cases absolutely "barbarized" and "obfuscated" with time)

  • Germanic (Visigothic, Suebic, Vandalic etc.)

  • Romance (Spanish, Portuguese etc.)
In this blog http://forwhattheywereweare.blogspot.com/2013/09/more-basque-linguistics-meaning-of.html the author concludes that 'Garabandal' is the Vasconic or simply Basque word.

In other place http://www.mensagemdegarabandal.com/products/presentation-of-the-sites-and-protagonists/ you can read that
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Etymologically speaking, "Garabandal" means the "place where the dead are buried."
without any further explanation from what source this etymology comes.

Nevertheless, the latter of the mentioned pages somehow led me to the possible reconstruction of etymology of the name 'Garabandal'.

If we assume that it could be a word of Germanic origin, precisely speaking Visigothic, we can make some decent analysis of it.

In German there exist such words as 'grab', 'graben' ('grave' in English) and 'tal' meaning 'valley' in English, so 'grabental' is something like a 'valley of graves' what sounds quite reasonable in the context of the mentioned etymology.

If you try to check our suppositions in the on-line Gothic-English dictionary http://web.archive.org/web/20100416081032/http://etymological.fw.hu/Gothic.htm you'll find such words as 'graban' and 'dal':
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graban [akin to Eng grave, Ger graben] : dig. Deriv. graba grave, groba pit. Comp. bigraban dig round, afgraban, usgraban dig out

dal [akin to Eng dale] : valley. Deriv. dalath down, dalatha below, dalathro from below, dalja (*) ravine. Comp. ibdalja ravine
So 'Garabandal' may be a slightly modified Visigothic name 'Grabandal' meaning 'cemetery', in other words, a holy place when the ancestors were burred and possibly worshipped.

Indeed, the name of the place where The Holy Virgin made her apparitions perfectly harmonize with the mysterious atmosphere surrounding those events. Smile
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sleepsleep
hi MHajduk,
i never heard about this apparition too, it just after i got the lottery dream which i define as near to zero probability it could happened in 24 hours, i started to google stuff about other forces and spirits.

here the google map with street view,
https://www.google.com/maps/place/39554+San+Sebasti%C3%A1n+de+Garabandal,+Cantabria,+Spain/@43.2013827,-4.4240278,18z

thanks for the Garabandal meaning, valley of graves.
Post 14 Sep 2015, 20:56
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Nice place. I see a big progress in the standard of living of the local community. BTW, the Green Spain is the region where I could live and feel good (at first glance the climate, flora and fauna of this region seem to be similar to those of Poland). Smile
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