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Tomasz Grysztar
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though the fragment mentioning it is perhaps not unequivocal enough

It's not. And as a sidenote the actual loader implementation does not check even this condition.
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fasm's "format PE" implementation is such that you define image file and memory image side by side

Limited flexibility of format PE is OK for me. I just don't like that you conceptually bind the RVA to the file offset. And for full flexibility I'd prefer to use format binary anyway, though the lack of relocations support there is very frustrating. Btw. I don't think it would be easy to simulate relocations in fasm g, cause it's also important to track the property of relocatability through arithmetical calculations.

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l_inc wrote:
Btw. I don't think it would be easy to simulate relocations in fasm g, cause it's also important to track the property of relocatability through arithmetical calculations.
The MZ example demonstrates on a simplest case how to do it. For relocations like PE ones all you need is ORG with a base relative to an ELEMENT symbol, say "element ImageBase", and then a DD handler checking whether given value is relative to that element. It is in fact the same principle that fasm 1 uses for relocations, but in a very generalized form.
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all you need is ORG with a base relative to an ELEMENT symbol

That is a cool combination I didn't think of. I only briefly reviewed the manual though. I had a hard time trying to understand the namespaces at the beginning. As for me the wording choice is such that some things are very hard to understand, but it's been a while since then.

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hmm...additional test dll x64 rip-relative only

masm64 vs2015
IMAGE_FILE_RELOCS_STRIPPED - NO
IMAGE_DLLCHARACTERISTICS_DYNAMIC_BASE - YES
Reloc DIR RVA - 0
Reloc DIR SIZE - 0

FASM 1.71.39 without "data fixups" / "section '.reloc' data readable discardable fixups"
IMAGE_FILE_RELOCS_STRIPPED - YES
IMAGE_DLLCHARACTERISTICS_DYNAMIC_BASE - NO
Reloc DIR RVA - 0
Reloc DIR SIZE - 0

FASM 1.71.39 with "data fixups"
IMAGE_FILE_RELOCS_STRIPPED - NO
IMAGE_DLLCHARACTERISTICS_DYNAMIC_BASE - YES
Reloc DIR RVA - 00001D5E -> string "test"
Reloc DIR SIZE - 0

FASM 1.71.39 with "section '.reloc' data readable discardable fixups"
IMAGE_FILE_RELOCS_STRIPPED - NO
IMAGE_DLLCHARACTERISTICS_DYNAMIC_BASE - YES
Reloc DIR RVA - 00002000 -> .reloc section with zero virtual/raw size
Reloc DIR SIZE - 0


non zero "Reloc DIR RVA" (fasm bug)
00007FF8C96A0000 dwmapi.dll
00007FF8CDF20000 oleaut32.dll
00007FF8BCEC0000 atlthunk.dll
0000000100000000 test64.dll <- ASLR FAIL?

manually zero "Reloc DIR RVA"
00007FF8C96A0000 dwmapi.dll
00007FF8CDF20000 oleaut32.dll
00007FF8BCEC0000 atlthunk.dll
00007FF8B4400000 test64.dll <- ok


Tomasz Grysztar
"empty fixups" - OK, what about "data fixups" + "Reloc DIR RVA"? this will be fixed for x64?
and... how about IMAGE_DLL_CHARACTERISTICS_HIGH_ENTROPY_VA for PE64?
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