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zutokaza



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A list of operating systems like Menuet OS or forks (Kolibri OS)? Built with assembly language.


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Post 05 May 2015, 05:30
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Note that MenuetOS is not open source. And apparently KolibriOS is a "stolen" copy of Menuet.

Anyhow there is an entire forum on this board dedicated to OSes. I'm moving this message there. Have a look at the FAQ which is sticky and always at the top.
Post 05 May 2015, 05:57
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revolution wrote:
Note that MenuetOS is not open source. And apparently KolibriOS is a "stolen" copy of Menuet.

Anyhow there is an entire forum on this board dedicated to OSes. I'm moving this message there. Have a look at the FAQ which is sticky and always at the top.


Wiki says it's open source for the 32bit version.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MenuetOS
Post 05 May 2015, 06:46
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The 32bit version of MenuetOS is open source, but is not developed anymore. KolibriOS is a fork of MenuetOS32 and is actively developed. In fact it already differs by more than 50% with the original.
Post 05 May 2015, 07:51
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JohnFound wrote:
The 32bit version of MenuetOS is open source, but is not developed anymore. KolibriOS is a fork of MenuetOS32 and is actively developed. In fact it already differs by more than 50% with the original.


A lot of time there is only one way or a very similar way to program something. You could say that everyone is copying each other in a way. Copy and pasting is *beeped* up though. I have seen a lot of game code look the same because it is the standard way of doing it.
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Menuet64 is closed source because of people who look for operating systems to steal, fuck it up then make their fucked up version more popular than the original.
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A lot of time there is only one way or a very similar way to program something
Very wrong, there are an infinite number of ways of writing code, styles and algorithms. Truth is, the "typical Johns/Pawns" think there's only one stupid way to do things then tell everyone "it's the only way".
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DEXOS
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Post 09 May 2015, 14:03
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codestar wrote:
Menuet64 is closed source because of people who look for operating systems to steal, fuck it up then make their fucked up version more popular than the original.
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A lot of time there is only one way or a very similar way to program something
Very wrong, there are an infinite number of ways of writing code, styles and algorithms. Truth is, the "typical Johns/Pawns" think there's only one stupid way to do things then tell everyone "it's the only way".

Give me at least 40 ways to display "hello world" in all programming languages. It can't be done normally. I only know of a few ways to do it in most programming languages and most ways no one uses because there is a “standard way everyone does it.”

Now. I disagree with the infinite ways unless people are making their own programming languages. Majority are not, therefore infinite isn't true because there will never be a person making another language every millisecond. Now programming languages are not designed to do a certain command...a million or a billion different ways.

The code will always be very similar at the simplest form. The hardware only has a limited amount of ways. Some ways are more efficient and people complain about copying. If it is the most efficient way, then it is the only way of doing it. That makes it common knowledge. You can't copyright the best way to walk.

Now the code should always look different depending on the programming language. Comments should be similar, but different. Integer names should be different, etc, but in the end, there is one way of walking. By one, I mean the standard limited ways. You can walk in different ways efficiently, but there isn't an infinite way for a normal set of legs.

Menuet:
They should never had made there work open source, unsecured, or closed source if they didn't want people to fork it or learn from it. If it is never known, then no one will ever copy or edit a better form that best fits them.

To make it simple:
This is always a standard way that is well known. There are many ways of doing something, but never an infinite way.

Copying is messed up, but if it looks different, then you can't say it is a copy. Even twins have slightly different features. Otherwise, sue the people you think are copying then or go to war, but there is a big chase of losing. Time loss, money loss, death, and etc. Even KolibriOS says it uses the open source code. Not like they are stealing. You can make a tank look different. It can be slower, have more fire power, bigger, faster, more armor, hold more people, but in the end it uses the standard method.

I don't know John or Pawn, but they are right. There is only one standard way. The standard one way can be different, but there is only one way until it is possible to do something differently every millisecond. Any one programming language has its limits. I doubt one can can display simple text in a billion different ways. Not even in ASM. There is always a LIMIT.
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pabloreda wrote:
DEXOS
OCTAOS


Thank you. Topic can be closed. Very Happy
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