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Sniper



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It id not mine distro! It's Ivan Poddubny! Simple I publish it because Ivan haven't much time! Wink
Of course I can create my own distro, but it has not any sense
Post 08 Jul 2004, 18:44
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Tolle



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crc: go live in the past. Are you by any change american?

Groenten,
Bad hair day Toooole.

p.s.
And when are we going to switch to a kernAl?
Post 09 Jul 2004, 20:11
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crc



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crc: go live in the past. Are you by any change american?

Yes, I am American Smile

Keep in mind that GUI's aren't useable for everyone. We debated this for several months on the old RetroForth forums. If you have poor eyesight (like me), or are blind, a text only OS is a lot easier to use. Big text & screen readers can be a lifesaver. Screen readers tend to have a LOT of trouble with GUI's. Not to mention, how do you find an icon on the screen when you're blind? Also: headless systems (like most servers I've used) need a text only interface for administration via SSH or Telnet.

What I want to get at is that both GUI's and Text Consoles have a place in the modern world; we shouldn't exclude either one. I admire Menuet's idealism, but let's face it: Sometimes a console is more practical than a GUI for some people or certain uses.
Post 09 Jul 2004, 21:14
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Tolle



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I agree that people with disabilities are often left out when it comes to User Interfaces in general. But an old-style console is IMHO not the way to go.
What about people who are unable to use a keyboard?

My generalisation of 'Americans' yesterday was completely wrong. I just had the misfortune to get in an argument about the 'american way' of doing stuff. So i hope i haven't offended anyone, as it's not my intention to do so.
(Funny how you associate a whole nation with just a few people)

Tolle.
Post 10 Jul 2004, 07:02
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crc



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I agree that people with disabilities are often left out when it comes to User Interfaces in general. But an old-style console is IMHO not the way to go. What about people who are unable to use a keyboard?


There's no reason that voice recognition software can't be used under a text console Smile Seriously, my whole point is that a console should be provided as an option for those who want it.. Why is it so hard to provide a console interface for those who want it? You can still have it boot to a GUI by default, but have a terminal emulator (like xterm) under the GUI. If a plain console is desired/needed, choose it at the boot settings menu.

BTW, I took no offense at your generalization of 'Americans'.
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Edit: oh baby baby it's *coff*wild*coff* world. Razz


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If you're so concerned about X11 being a memory hog and bloated, why would you want to run OOo, FireFox, Mplayer, etc? They are as bloated (perhaps even more so) as X11!

Menuet is a kernel + applications. You can't just take the kernel and replace it with Linux; there are huge differences in design and implementation philosophy. Even if you could, the big projects will NOT switch to it. Menuet is a small, but highly promising, player in the OS field.

A couple of other things:
1) "gcc bash" does not exist. GCC is a C compiler, BASH is the Bourne-Again Shell
2) FASM shouldn't be integrated into all those programs. Writing software using it is fine, but why does a web browser need FASM built in?
3) Menuet requires low-level graphics drivers. ANY graphical interface requires low-level drivers.
Post 10 Jul 2004, 12:27
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