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ntrf



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ntrf 01 Jun 2004, 08:05
Question about MFT
Anyone knows it`s format? Confused
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vid 01 Jun 2004, 10:50
i quess not completely. Even Linux kernel can only read/modify files, can't resize or create them so it probably still isn't fully explored.
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ntrf



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ntrf 01 Jun 2004, 11:43
I have only Bootsector format.

It's free for download at MSDN.
Confused Confused Confused
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f0dder 01 Jun 2004, 17:08
"forget it" ... the only reliable NTFS implementation out right now is the MS one, which is the reason for http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/ . OpenSores people just aren't good enough at reversing ^_^
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neonz 01 Jun 2004, 19:49
f0dder wrote:
"forget it" ... the only reliable NTFS implementation out right now is the MS one, which is the reason for http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/ . OpenSores people just aren't good enough at reversing ^_^


Only? How about http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/freeware/ntfsdos.shtml?
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comrade 01 Jun 2004, 21:32
Quote:
http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/freeware/ntfswin98.shtml
NTFS for Windows 98 takes a unique approach to providing cross-platform file system support. Rather than implement code to read and write NTFS drives, NTFS for Windows 98 uses the NTFS and NTOSKRNL system files from a Windows NT/2000/XP configuration. NTFS for Windows 98 wraps the Windows NT/2000/XP NTFS driver in a run-time environment that simulates the Windows NT environment the NTFS driver is written to use. Thus, NTFS for Windows 98 does not rely on potentially unreliable reverse-engineered information about NTFS, provides ultimate compatibility with NTFS, and takes advantage of Microsoft NTFS bug fixes whenever you update the NTFS driver file NTFS for Windows 98 uses to a more recent version

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neonz 02 Jun 2004, 01:34
Ok, I was wrong with sysinternals...

But! In my old work, one people demonstred me two-diskette DOS with some third party read-write NTFS driver for DOS. I will try to find out what the hell that was.
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ntrf 02 Jun 2004, 05:25
Exclamation If you find something - DO NOT SEND ME (whatever it will be) Exclamation

I disasembled WinXP bootsector and tring to undestand hot it works.
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f0dder 02 Jun 2004, 23:40
two-diskette DOS would most likely be the sysinternals NTFSDOS stuff... or perhaps linux, which has "almost functional" read support and "DANGEROUS! EXPERIMENTAL! OMFG!" write support.
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neonz 03 Jun 2004, 02:02
f0dder wrote:
two-diskette DOS would most likely be the sysinternals NTFSDOS stuff... or perhaps linux, which has "almost functional" read support and "DANGEROUS! EXPERIMENTAL! OMFG!" write support.


nope, it wasn't linux. it was plain DOS. sysinternals NTFSDOS isn't two disk stuff, it is few KB driver, loaded from autoexec.bat, and it is read-only (that was read-write).
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f0dder 03 Jun 2004, 11:03
after you add ntoskrnl.exe, ntfs.sy (etc), it's certainly a bit more than "a few KB driver" Wink
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neonz 03 Jun 2004, 21:12
f0dder wrote:
after you add ntoskrnl.exe, ntfs.sy (etc), it's certainly a bit more than "a few KB driver" Wink


ntoskrnl.exe loads from DOS???
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roticv 03 Jun 2004, 22:45
Since when does nt have dos?
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f0dder 04 Jun 2004, 01:05
Read the docs?

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run-time environment that simulates the Windows NT environment the NTFS driver is written to use.
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