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sleepsleep
some of the words, ideas that really worth to rethink and reunderstand,

http://jamesclear.com/successful-people-start-before-they-feel-ready
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If you want to summarize the habits of successful people into one phrase, it’s this: successful people start before they feel ready.


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...Branson was saying things like: “Screw it, just get on and do it.” Which was closely followed by: “Why can’t we mine asteroids?”
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Sounds like an attempt to invent a parachute during the free fall from the stratosphere. Maybe it works, but not always. Razz
Post 10 Jan 2014, 19:14
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Well actually this one seems right to me. Waiting for a perfect moment with some things in life results waiting for ever. Of course perfect moment refers in this case to ones knowledge state.
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sleepsleep wrote:
http://jamesclear.com/successful-people-start-before-they-feel-ready
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If you want to summarize the habits of successful people into one phrase, it’s this: successful people start before they feel ready.
The sentence "successful people start before they feel ready" should be treated not as a kind of advice for newly baked entrepreneurs but only as a description of the most typical behavior of some successful American businessmen.

In order to become a successful entrepreneur you often have to invent something new and realize your plan before others will be able to do the same. Hence it quickly transforms into a race with time - you must be the first one! Since you must act as fast as it is possible, prepare in a hurry, it's quite understandable that you are usually not able to be fully prepared before you start if you want to be the first. It's an observation of the effects, not a hint for achieving economic success. You may act like that not because you are an extravagant person and it's your philosophy of life but because you just have no choice. I'm sure if those businessmen had to choose among various degrees of preparation for this specific "economic battle" they would certainly pick up the best variant, "full option" with all insurances, retreat paths and so on.

It's not true that you can do everything without any preparation, for most people it's a straight way to fail ("I don't want to prepare because I don't know how to do it but... never mind, who cares?"). Unfortunately, such deceptive and harmful sentences, as the mentioned above by sleepsleep, become viral and people quote them in any occasion without proper understanding their true meaning "because they sound good".
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sleepsleep
the author, view that successful people start before they feel ready.

i take it as the willingness to take risk, to venture into unknown, to deal with situation that could probably turn out so alien, and to face unknown changes,

like to mine an asteroid with no proven technology, no proven method, unknown possibilities,


i could see that, sometime we hope for changes in our own life, but we actually don't really want changes, we prefer to stay in comfort zone, having no changes and meet our expectation,

and, the definition of successful is different from person to person,

overall, i agree with what the author said, (as what i could interpret above from his words)
and i don't see how that sentence could be harmful and deceptive.
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sleepsleep
another life viagra,

http://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/MichaelGnade/20140107/208141/Internet_Entrepreneurship_How_to_Avoid_Becoming_a_Stressed_Out_Loner.php

Internet Entrepreneurship: How to Avoid Becoming a Stressed Out Loner
Post 11 Jan 2014, 21:44
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MHajduk



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sleepsleep wrote:
overall, i agree with what the author said, (as what i could interpret above from his words)
and i don't see how that sentence could be harmful and deceptive.
I'm not especially surprised by that, you are looking for a ideas, opinions and words of wisdom that would support your way of living, I understand that. Nothing bad about it. But from the other hand, you should try to understand what I have wrote above. The "words of wisdom" of the aforementioned kind may be deceptive for all those people who accept in an absolutely uncritical way everything said by an "authority", especially if those "words of wisdom" are taken out from the proper context and treated almost as a kind of revealed truth.

A side note.

I have noticed that people tend to put an extra positive meaning to the words of people who they like or respect. We should rather concentrate on what has been said not who has said that. I have absolutely neutral attitude to the author of the quoted sentence but I'm disgusted by the comment and final conclusions that were made by the author of the article.

Another note.

My definition of "risk" and possible profits from it are quite similar to yours but the risk must be precisely calculated, all "pros" and "cons" have to be summed up in order to see whether we obtain + or -.
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I don't quite agree with you MHajduk. I have a huge procrastination problem. For me preparation to things is an eternal excuse for not doing something (not looking for a new job cauce I still would like to master a new technology, not starting a project cause I still lack knowledge and so on). I don't admire the man who said this, but it is good to see, that some other people advice things I observed myself.

By the way, it's hard to calculate the risk of new ventures. Wink
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sleepsleep
maybe we need to define what is wisdom,
what is risk,
what is chances,
what is truth,

i would say preparation is really important,
to prepare is to forecast possibilities, and backup plan to deal with it when that possibilities occurred,

when one prepare, one is actually start doing,

maybe the problem is lack of objectives, maybe.
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Wisdom is me,
Risk is to choose whatever in realisings its possible or likely trade offs
chances are people with the given name of "Chance"
Truth is me, but not the one from GTA San Andreas

if the preparation was not done for any catastrophic event, then these shall be catastrophic. but behold, for not all the events maybe catastrophic, for these preparation maybe a waste of energy.


There are no lacks in Objectives, because always there is a stride for one thing or another, maybe ther is a lack of awareness of these.
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《Offtopic》
matefkr wrote:
Wisdom is me,
Truth is me, but not the one from GTA San Andreas

Truth was a paranoid, he had all sorts of things about conspiracies, Area 69, but
his missions were funny especially Green Goo. Laughing
(BTW To those who don't know who was Truth he is a character in GTA SA)
Nice Picture of Truth
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Wisdom

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me

Hmmmm....
《/Offtopic》
I feel that even if you're not talented continuous hard work and preparation has always
proved successful. Whereas some of the most talented people have failed miserably
without proper preparation.

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MHajduk wrote:
sleepsleep wrote:
overall, i agree with what the author said, (as what i could interpret above from his words)
and i don't see how that sentence could be harmful and deceptive.
I'm not especially surprised by that, you are looking for a ideas, opinions and words of wisdom that would support your way of living, I understand that. Nothing bad about it. But from the other hand, you should try to understand what I have wrote above. The "words of wisdom" of the aforementioned kind may be deceptive for all those people who accept in an absolutely uncritical way everything said by an "authority", especially if those "words of wisdom" are taken out from the proper context and treated almost as a kind of revealed truth.

A side note.

I have noticed that people tend to put an extra positive meaning to the words of people who they like or respect. We should rather concentrate on what has been said not who has said that. I have absolutely neutral attitude to the author of the quoted sentence but I'm disgusted by the comment and final conclusions that were made by the author of the article.

Another note.

My definition of "risk" and possible profits from it are quite similar to yours but the risk must be precisely calculated, all "pros" and "cons" have to be summed up in order to see whether we obtain + or -.


To summarize: two words: Subjective vs Objective conclusion.

This is what's on the table here.
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sleepsleep
another nice dose,
how to be a genius,
http://theweek.com/article/index/255043/how-to-be-a-genius

1) Be curious and driven
2) It's not about formal education. It's about hours at your craft.
3) Test your ideas
4) You Must Sacrifice
5) Work because of passion, not money

read more on above link,
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sleepsleep
awareness, consciousness, objectives, risks, chances, truth, problem, prepare,

sometim, it feels like, we never really go deep into the meaning of each word, the definition seems so blur,
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enslaving by pulling of hair, harassment, beating, enslaving by copper swords, enslaving by armor whip and swords, enslaving by optical huge weapons, enslaving by spreading discovered disease, enslaving by engraving with false education those who are yet susceptible, enslaving by power of chemistry, enslaving by mind control. This is something wich occures to me.

i will ask any of you for the moment of ponder and for your subsequent daily routine, wich one of these u believe existed and whereupon u have at least one of these u dont believe what makes u not be-live in it?
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sleepsleep
there are groups of people who want to destroy, another group to create, another group to maintain,

there exists people who want to create positive changes, some to create negative changes,, some don't want changes,

but things are like yin and yang, all is changes, to change bring both negative and positive,

to maintain means no progress,,

sometime, i think, what i gonna do with lots of money, power, or etc, and having with the understanding that everything will just gone since life is so far a one way ticket with time limit,

i just need some fire into desire, i guess i just total lack of fire to do anything,
having a good health i guess is the most important thing,
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to maintain means progress, if the body of human is not maintained, there is nothing to do the work.

progress is always in some way. so throwing around words like progress is with no use, but they usually mean, "my progress".
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sleepsleep
to maintain means progress, so accumulate experiences from repeat loop is consider progress too?
maybe there is some logical truth there.

progress == a step, or a move of change from previous state into newer state in the sense nearer to objective.

certainly not every changes proceed into target, sometime, they fall far away from target.

i am trying to define words into meaning from my own perspective.
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who cares?
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seriously someone built a box gave his box to you, and u type some sort of stuff in there.
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