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scientica 18 Aug 2003, 11:01
I will try to teach other assembly, but I lack the pedagogy skills - but I'll try. And I'll do what I can to get the teacher to allow me to do asm...
_________________ ... a professor saying: "use this proprietary software to learn computer science" is the same as English professor handing you a copy of Shakespeare and saying: "use this book to learn Shakespeare without opening the book itself. - Bradley Kuhn |
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Tommy 18 Aug 2003, 11:59
Hm....I see what you mean ...seems to be a strange little thing there... I'll take a look when I get the time to....
So long! |
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Blag 18 Aug 2003, 15:08
Hi Scientica:
If you want to teach some newbies ASM....well here i am If you have some newbie examples please send them to my mail: singlepathpe@yahoo.es Agree with you bout the teaching stuff......I lack the pedagogy skills too......no one understands me....when i tried to teach them. And...... Quote: My dear young friends, I think it is better to your schools if they let YOU hold the course on fasm instead of VB, C++ and all other crap we get in our school time. Pelaillo.....i know that you don't want to offend anybody.....but....i'm a VB, C++ and other craps programmer I'm trying to learn ASM coz i think it's amazing and a must learn for every good programmer..... But all also like my other crap knowledge So please......don't talk bad about other programming languages.....hum.....maybe Java.....coz it sux......really sux.....i almost hate it but i learned Anyway.....Take Care...... |
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JohnFound 18 Aug 2003, 17:14
Tommy, it's very hard to make all changes to make AsmEdit to work with local variables instead of global. It's more important than comments. Please try to implement bookmark system in my sources. Sorry for inconvenience, but it's important for genera structure of the project.
Regards John Found |
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pelaillo 19 Aug 2003, 07:08
Blag wrote: Hi Scientica: Hola Blag, my intention was not to offend of course, it was directed to myself. When I start coding for windows, I use Pascal, VB and after very much pain, C and C++. It was too late when I discover asm and the possibility to do the same things easier and in a more logic way. Sure, for C/C++ there are thousands of libraries that do the job for easier for you, but I always avoided third party BB (bloat and bugs) and runtime libraries as for example MFC. I still code in other languages (mainly for maintenance), but it is easier for me now with my asm background. The message was: I wish I were prepared in school to do assembly and then (if necessary) other languages. How many hours of valuable time saved... very soon you will understand what I mean... |
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Tommy 19 Aug 2003, 14:15
Oh...sorry JohnFound.... I forgot that....That's also something which "disappeared" when I rewrote it.... I'll fix it when I get the time...
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Blag 19 Aug 2003, 14:41
No te preocupes Pelaillo, it's cool
I love FASM....and i wish i had learned before....but it was like....."ASM it's hard....you just see a lot of MOV, PUSH and AH,DX,EX.....i mean.....what's that???"......now.....i got to understand those keywords......maybe not at best.....but i learning FASM and that's good. But it's hard coz i study and work and got a bride.....so.....i don't have enough time to study. Anyway.....as you zed.....where i study.....they teach VB, Java, SQL, PowerBuilder.....but, they don't teach them the way they must be teach.....i mean, they not teach it to be usefull.....thanx god, i'm a self study programmer....and all the programming i know....i learned it myself. So, in a sense of way....i agree with you. (EscribirÃa en español, pero no creo que nadie más entenderÃa ) |
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Blag 24 Aug 2003, 03:58
Hi....i just saw the picture of an Visual Assembler Editor named "RadASM".......but.....i don't need to download it.....i rather wait for the FRESH to be done.
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scientica 24 Aug 2003, 09:35
It's been a long time (a few days) since I last coded in asm (I've done some Java - it a school subject (I chose to do that in the programming lessons - might come handy for my homepage), btw, java isn't (that) bad if you think of it's purpose)
Now I've got some more functionallity in the style editor, now it checks the checkboxes according to the flags of the controll (the other way around isn't done yet - there for I say that the style checking is partial). Soon it's just the rest left [EDIT]Outdated attachement removed. There should be newer version. possibly in another thread.[/EDIT] _________________ ... a professor saying: "use this proprietary software to learn computer science" is the same as English professor handing you a copy of Shakespeare and saying: "use this book to learn Shakespeare without opening the book itself. - Bradley Kuhn |
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JohnFound 24 Aug 2003, 13:08
Hi all.
I am back now. So, new release will be soon. There will be many changes. When I was in hollydays (on the Black sea's, "Sunny beach" resort - there is great ) I thinked about FRESH strategy, and now I have many ideas about general Fresh structure. Scientica, I just downloaded your version and I will include your parts in next release. Tommy, I will wait a little with AsmEdit 1.0.04, because I can't simply include it in the project. Please, try to make implementation without global variables. About SpaceGlyph I will send you an e-mail as soon as possible. I hope that work on FRESH dosn't influent with your lessons in the school. Regards. |
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24 Aug 2003, 13:08 |
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Tommy 24 Aug 2003, 13:50
See attachment...
Fresh v.1.0.06 with AsmEdit v.1.4 (without global variables) [EDIT]Outdated attachement removed. There should be newer version. possibly in another thread.[/EDIT] |
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scientica 24 Aug 2003, 15:23
JohnFound wrote: I hope that work on FRESH dosn't influent with your lessons in the school. Hehe, I don't think tha'll be that big problem, unless I ge drowned in homewok (got a "pretty" good schedule - tuesdays and fridays are great (lessons in school ends before 12 o'clock (I've one subject to study on distance (ECDL) )). This feels queer, I've been doing more Java than asm these last days... _________________ ... a professor saying: "use this proprietary software to learn computer science" is the same as English professor handing you a copy of Shakespeare and saying: "use this book to learn Shakespeare without opening the book itself. - Bradley Kuhn |
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24 Aug 2003, 15:23 |
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JohnFound 25 Aug 2003, 12:42
Tommy wrote: See attachment... Great, Tommy. That is exactly what I needed! Thank you for toolbar icons and menus too. Only little note about uncomment function. When you check for ';' char, you must check first non-blank symbol, because if the user comments some rows, and then make indent of block that includes commented lines, the first symbol is space not ';' and function 'uncomment' can't uncomment this block. Scientica: I am glad to read, that you have good scholl schedule. Everythink usefull in my live I learned outside school (before the school lessons, and even before teachers ). Regards. |
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25 Aug 2003, 12:42 |
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Tommy 25 Aug 2003, 13:44
Upps....I forgot ...Well, I'll try to fix it soon...
Gotta go now! It's football training... So long! Tommy |
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25 Aug 2003, 13:44 |
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Tommy 25 Aug 2003, 13:51
Now, it's fixed...
...same as previous, but this time with a little fix in the uncomment-procedure... [EDIT]Outdated attachement removed. There must be newer version. possibly in another thread.[/EDIT] |
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25 Aug 2003, 13:51 |
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JohnFound 25 Aug 2003, 13:55
Tommy wrote: Upps....I forgot ...Well, I'll try to fix it soon... No problems, Tommy. It's not so important thing. You have for it all time you need (even more ) |
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25 Aug 2003, 13:55 |
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Tommy 25 Aug 2003, 14:26
...see previous post (if you've not seen it already)...
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25 Aug 2003, 14:26 |
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JohnFound 25 Aug 2003, 14:47
Tommy wrote: ...see previous post (if you've not seen it already)... Wow, you are quick just like lightning! Thank you. |
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25 Aug 2003, 14:47 |
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Tommy 25 Aug 2003, 17:57
Now I'm back from my training.... Thanks!
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