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matefkr



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what if a 4 year old decides He/She wanna be a porn actor/actress, then when grows up after 18 years old still wanna be a Porn actor, because it is a desireable job.
Is it considered morally acceptable to withheld and make Her wait with Her dream occupation about 14 years before He or She can do what He or She likes or should it be allowed earlier?
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Post 17 Oct 2013, 19:47
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well. y at 18? i see most people acquire their personalities in cultures by the age of 8 or perhaps earlier. many important guides of personality are estabilished by age of 5. at least in the place where i live. Mostly because they are living early times in a mostly honest environment, and interact with multiple individuals. And another reason is because habbits are estabilished for animals including humans. But of course since bodily features influence the social behavior surrounding a person, large bodily changes can mean changes with outside behavior, thus changes in behavior can occure (note that here it is not necesserily restricted to the person, the younger usually see beauty ideals or porn with grown ups or more developed ones, so suppose one of them grows hips and or tits earlier, will receive more attention, but as the others develop this can change, or as this one develops it can change. suppose they go to kindergarten, where they are there a lot of times and they dont watch so much of the media or dont look at others doing this or that, they would touch one another more, some of them there would bring some education from "home" and this there along with some traits could influence how the others behave with this one, suppose there someone can be popular because is more brave more initiative in touch and so on.. perhaps have some sort of outside features, this person can become even more popular if changes occure during puberty.. it is not only down to personality.. but realy.. there is little personality recquired, an acceptbale personality is initiative, understanding, and kind, and accepting the approach of the other too, may be smart or be able to provide some sort of unique things for the other observer, so then this person is linked to also provide for the satisfaction of brain activation need, that is an interesting person. If a person can create, then not necesserily much need for outise persons to provide for satisfaction of brain activation needs unless otherwise.
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I'd force her to code, :Cool
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: [ do not force to code. coding is pain without any external force already.
Post 17 Oct 2013, 20:18
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but suppose She is interested about having sex, filming, phallus/vagina, orgasm etc.. u can use these wich She likes to explore Her possible maximum width of attentionspan (how many what kind of objects She is probably at most able to concentrate on. Then instead of one object of interest u can insert other patterns into the environment related to coding, then u can use gradual cognitive shaping to Teach Her to like coding as well. Of course love of sex wont disappear, as it is a more inborn natural thing, but perhaps many things in lovemaking will stimulate the imagination to engineer better algorithms.
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matefkr wrote:

what if a 4 year old decides He/She wanna

you know, i think this is great question, (for people who love to ponder, reflect and think, question like this really put their brain into 100% CPU)

i re-question this as,
in what age should the freedom, or the ability to decide must be totally respected?

i believe we always respect other people needs, of course, not all needs,
eg, when kids hungry, parent find food for them, when kids tired, parent help them to sleep,
and etc,

parent become the decision maker for babies since they are born, then parent pass that power to their babies little by little, babies -> kids -> teenagers -> late 20 -> late 30 -> late 40 -> late50 -> ...

changes took place in their life, and through those changes, they learn how to make better decisions, learn to regret about decisions they made, learn to looking forward, hope in their tomorrow.

so, parent play really important role here, it is them that actually shape those newborn life.
it is not young parent or old parent, but, what a person understand from the changes (s)he goes through


matefkr wrote:

desireable job

this is a more perspective thing,
and how is that a 4 years old understand "what is job"? unless somebody keep on pressing those ideas into him/her.

i think there is no fixed "age of reason", it happened differently for everybody, but once you reach that age, you are more aware of the decisions, desire, and etc powers you hold.


anyone could interest / desire with almost anything,
this world system is created, crafted, designed, by certain group of people,
things get done easier when people are sleeping,
like baby in cradle,

as you said, the knower could use almost all kinds of means, to deploy gradual cognitive shaping,

to turn a person into drug addict, gambler, sex addict, violence adult,
be it negative or positive values,

but so far, from what i could see,
everything turn negative, unless somebody make effort to create and transfer positiveness.
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Post 17 Oct 2013, 23:15
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well local laws are baseless. so u say some people told this to u so u obey? this is not a good reason.. even, it is not a good reason if masses told so.. because masses can be manipulated.. for example as u were in this answer of yours.. u are part of the mass.

well sleepsleep. not sure when your thought arised but exactly this is what i wanted to achieve, make one look on the fact that babies lives are greatly shaped by parents. Everything is shaped there.. (well shaped by environment).
but i say it is possible, say an extraordinary 4 year old, who deduces.. deduces synthsize some new information.. and makes a decision. afterall u need better minds not keep them at the same level.. im not say sexuality is in connection with it.. actually it is in a way.. from the societal behavior perspective..
but im saying there is no way to decide based on age.. wich in fact.. is something wich is just told by someone else. nothing more..
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another thing about positive and negative. there is something .. wich was not set by u.. u is born, and u need something born with a set of values.

But whatever. It was just a quesiton to ponder about. Realy.. noone gives a damn.. kids play doctor, or whatnot.. that is checking eachothers genitals.. etc etc.. and this since countless decades and so on. Wich is related to sexuality something.

this is not necesserily important to discuss the moral of this specific question.. as it is related to some laws wich are not realy obeyed.
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on the other hand, as i say early education can have lasting effects.. but have to consider some physical changes of the body as well. (as well as enviornment too).
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i just woke up, and i think, i got another idea for your idea,

basically, it is about preparedness.
are the kids well prepare at the age of x values?

and the one who judge is the one who care about the kids.
their parent, society, and so on.

the idea of "judge" here is like a x factor,
it is like to play god and decide are you qualified to be in hell or heaven.

more later, got to send a pc to customer place, tc.
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Young children are not in a position to understand the consequences of what they do. This is why many societies have certain minimum age requirements before children are considered old enough to start making decisions that can affect them for the rest of their lives.
Post 18 Oct 2013, 08:24
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contrary most people are nonmanipulators or have no broad knowledge about several topics thus they are not realy able to tell the consequences of what they do, some for the rest of their lives.
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