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typedef



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Anyone heard of this OS before (Linux). Looks neat.

http://opensuse.org/
Post 07 Oct 2013, 13:27
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dogman



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Sure. It's one of the top Linux for "enterprise use" if you believe Linux is suitable for enterprise use.

It was/is supported by Novell and targets the same type of customers as Red Hat.

If you want a good Linux for development neither of those are great choices because they're packaging mostly older software for "stability".
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i use it in several case, to save customer laptopz,
very presentable and live hybrid iso allow configuration saved into usb drive at the same time.

most hardware are detected upon log in.
using current in one of my usb pendrive.
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Post 07 Oct 2013, 17:31
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I'm looking for a server OS. I found a list somewhere on a site, it ranked them like this: (Linux based)

ClearOS
Ubuntu

But I was also thinking of getting Windows Server 2012/08.

Which one would you guys recommend? I don't want to install an OS and end up having to install server tools as addons. Win-Server comes with all the stuff, but I don't know on the Linux side.
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Post 08 Oct 2013, 01:29
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typedef wrote:

Which one would you guys recommend? I don't want to install an OS and end up having to install server tools as addons. Win-Server comes with all the stuff, but I don't know on the Linux side.


Try Ubuntu Server, or Debian.
Debian is preloaded with Apache, PHP, and the related stuffs, if I'm not mistaken. Smile
Post 08 Oct 2013, 01:39
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typedef wrote:
I'm looking for a server OS. I found a list somewhere on a site, it ranked them like this: (Linux based)

ClearOS
Ubuntu

But I was also thinking of getting Windows Server 2012/08.

Which one would you guys recommend? I don't want to install an OS and end up having to install server tools as addons. Win-Server comes with all the stuff, but I don't know on the Linux side.


The most popular Linux "server" OS are Red Hat and SuSE. CentOS is based on Red Hat, not a bad Linux. Ubuntu makes a "server" flavor. Slackware is a good combination of recent but not bleeding edge packages. Really, no Linux is suitable for a server but that doesn't stop a lot of people from using it that way. Heck it's free! It must be good.

If you say more about what you actually want to do maybe you will get more useful suggestions.

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Post 08 Oct 2013, 05:55
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HaHaAnonymous wrote:
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if you believe Linux is suitable for enterprise use.

Much more than Windows. I am sure.


I don't necessarily disagree but that still doesn't make Linux suitable. It just makes it less bad than Windows. I think we can all agree on that Very Happy

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Post 08 Oct 2013, 05:56
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dogman wrote:

I don't necessarily disagree but that still doesn't make Linux suitable. It just makes it less bad than Windows. I think we can all agree on that Very Happy


Are you suggesting BSD, then?

Very Happy
Post 08 Oct 2013, 15:16
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Yeah the BSD are better than Linux in my view except as application development platforms. OpenBSD makes a good server. Also you have commercial UNIX. Some of those are better than BSD or Linux.
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I've been using openSuSE for desktop (workstation/development) and server purposes, since the SuSE days (~version 8 ). Server wise, I've used it for Samba storage, svn repository and web server [intranet] roles without many issues.

I found that correct Samba configuration was a little tricky if also being accessed from unix side (wrong permissions/rights etc) and occasionally the Samba daemon would hang on shutdown and need a hard power off (waiting a few minutes after any Samba activity seemed to prevent this). [Not so fun if you Wake-On-Lan from the other side of the building Laughing]

On the plus side, most configuration is straightforward and consistent on the graphical and command line interfaces, whichever you choose, and it has good support for all sorts of stuff software or hardware wise. Certainly a good all-rounder by as dogman said you may find other distros or OSs would be more suited to your requirements.
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I was using for about 3 months.

What I have noticed about all Linux versions in general.

1. Their forum answers can be frustrating at times because they think that working at a Konsole every day to work out bugs is normal for dual booters or Window users

2. Many of them have definitions like "That ain't no real modem."
When I bought a new modem that is both Linux and Windows capable, they would
not help getting it to work in Linux when every feature the modem had worked great in Windows.

On the plus side, their security is excellent, programs are faster and more stable.

Wireless connectivity was better as well.

Their drivers for a Canon printer did not have the annoying "motor powering up for no good reason" that occurred under Window use.

Andy
Post 09 Oct 2013, 20:20
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Damn, so much information lol. Very Happy

If I use Windows, it will be less of a hassle since I'm familiar with Windows. If I use Linux/other OSes, I'll need to carve out some time to familiarize myself more with the environment and tools.
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dogman wrote:
Also you have commercial UNIX.


Like AIX, for example? IBM stuffs are not cheap Razz
Post 10 Oct 2013, 01:41
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typedef wrote:
If I use Linux/other OSes, I'll need to carve out some time to familiarize myself more with the environment and tools.


My VPS runs Debian, for several reasons:
1. Windows based VPS are more expensive then Linux-based ones.
2. Most web/server related softwares are UNIX/Linux-biased.
3. I'm pretty familiar with Debian, and most off my friends are Debian (or Ubuntu) users. Anytime you have problem, you can just ask them for help Smile

Sure as a Windows user, you need to learn about it, but not that much at beginning. Smile
Post 10 Oct 2013, 01:51
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TmX wrote:
typedef wrote:
If I use Linux/other OSes, I'll need to carve out some time to familiarize myself more with the environment and tools.


My VPS runs Debian, for several reasons:
1. Windows based VPS are more expensive then Linux-based ones.
2. Most web/server related softwares are UNIX/Linux-biased.
3. I'm pretty familiar with Debian, and most off my friends are Debian (or Ubuntu) users. Anytime you have problem, you can just ask them for help Smile

Sure as a Windows user, you need to learn about it, but not that much at beginning. Smile


I like the idea of less memory consumption. Very Happy.
So I'll go with Ubuntu Server I guess.
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TmX wrote:
dogman wrote:
Also you have commercial UNIX.


Like AIX, for example? IBM stuffs are not cheap Razz


I was thinking about Solaris but AIX is probably much better knowing IBM. I don't like UNIX and haven't had a chance to try many of them and I don't have any POWER hardware to run AIX on. As you say it is probably not cheap to run but at least you get what you pay for.

There are other commercial UNIX that are probably good for servers but Linux has been running most of them out of business.

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i just wanted to note how hilarius it is that operating systems ar so much displayed as a big deal when in reality.... they are nothing more then a few program handler, debug handler, memory and resource share handler, and a few interfaces, plus dataformats for executing other programs. drivers come with hardware (or should otherwise they wont function). yes and a task distributor for distributing sheet..
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in comparision, a complete videogame 3d with openworld environment (sort of like virtual reality kind) takes much more to code then an operating system.
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