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sleepsleep
those in power try every methods to bring in fake votes
damn it,
Post 06 May 2013, 10:57
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Also, Belarus is notorious for this kind of thing.
The dictator is sitting there for almost 20 yrs using fake elections and
strangling of the opposition.
Post 06 May 2013, 12:35
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So what's new?
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Post 07 May 2013, 08:30
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KevinN: Do you have any comment(s) on the video you posted? What is it about?
Post 07 May 2013, 10:28
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the event still on-going, as people could set up committee to defy election result within 21 days,

some of the ugliest stuff here,
election voting process end at 5.00 pm,
by logic and common sense,
all ballots MUST BE transported to counting center using official election vehicle within 2 or 3 hours (that is fucking common sense)

so, before sending to counting center, we sign a form, how many bags of ballot to be transported in front of every political parties rep,

all procedure MUST be video, better LIVE on TV,

so, after reaching counting center, rep verify bags of ballot transported,
then LIVE on tv, counting process,

and that is true democracy,

now,

here in malaysia, we got ballots transported into counting center as add-on around 10pm, 11pm, 12pm, using taxi, using private car, using police car,

the election committee even try to bring the add-on ballot by walking, what the fuck is that?

what the fuck with all this idiots,

and this happen in almost every popular voting place,

and we got blackout in counting center, and that is really dark, i tell ya.
Post 07 May 2013, 14:37
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There should be a way to vote on the web.
Web programming is mature enough to provide security, so voting can't be cheated.
Post 07 May 2013, 14:48
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i still prefer LIVE telecast,, using pen and paper,

counting in front of camera, LIVE to everybody who vote,

digital security == illusion security
Post 07 May 2013, 15:04
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a government political party owned daily newspaper,

today with headline,

"what more chinese want"

the prime minister sort of blame their lose of parliament seats to chinese voter who vote opposition parties.

this idiot newspaper editor even allowed such headline, and that is racist, insult,

all the medias here are controlled by government, tv, radio, newspaper, even internet connection,

insanity, idiotic, corruption, racism


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Post 07 May 2013, 15:09
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In free election there should be no recording of who voted for whom.
That makes LIVE cameras kind of wrong.
Here is how I see the web election:

1. Voter physically goes to register before election (say 2 months in advance, so there will be no rush)
2. His identity is confirmed and he is given a VISA-like card with just unique serial # (no personal info stored on the card)
3. On the election day he visits one of the web connected terminals.
4. He enters a closed booth and selects a candidat name from a list on touch screen and swipes the card ONCE.
5. The vote is encrypted and sent to the main server and stored there.

Software provides that card can't be used more than once.
It is harder to cheat such system.
Post 07 May 2013, 16:41
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i mean LIVE when counting ballot, and the whole process from ballot box to counting center.

video should be record, who go to vote, the room where holy vote is marked, so everybody clear what is going on, no way to fraud,
but of course, the camera angle wont able to view what people vote for,

the idea of online voting will fail, the network could get hacked, even using SSL, and since all data will go into database, another layer open to hack,

and who got access to server, hacker, government employee, election committee, and more, and harder to find fraud, even fraud is on going,

and even got fraud, election committee who want to save face will just sweep it under carpet, after all, maybe a USD 1 billion dollar voting system,

such system will open to more possibilities, and more questionable result.
Post 07 May 2013, 17:33
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Electronic voting would be much easier to defraud than manual voting.

Things like SSL and one time use cards all require a chain of trust. So who are you going to trust?
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Post 07 May 2013, 22:38
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do not care about elections. well, still scientifically qualifiable smart person who is kind and would be in totalitarian power.. could solve every social problem.. not an issue. So either the elected officials not in totalitarian power or not kind or dumb (inclusive or).
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here the latest,
Quote:

PETALING JAYA: In a show of defiance, over 100,000 people gathered at the Stadium MBPJ in Kelana Jaya tonight to protest against the ‘stolen’ elections by the “illegitimate BN government”.

https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/nation/2013/05/09/thousands-gather-at-suara-rakyat-rally/

people is getting sick with idiot rules.
Post 08 May 2013, 22:31
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AsmGuru62 wrote:
In free election there should be no recording of who voted for whom.
That makes LIVE cameras kind of wrong.
Here is how I see the web election:

1. Voter physically goes to register before election (say 2 months in advance, so there will be no rush)
2. His identity is confirmed and he is given a VISA-like card with just unique serial # (no personal info stored on the card)
3. On the election day he visits one of the web connected terminals.
4. He enters a closed booth and selects a candidat name from a list on touch screen and swipes the card ONCE.
5. The vote is encrypted and sent to the main server and stored there.

Software provides that card can't be used more than once.
It is harder to cheat such system.


Not all people have internet. Wink
Post 08 May 2013, 22:57
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matefkr



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well.. vote on someone mabe voting someone works out... then if no good vote on the other one mabe it works out, then if not u have 3-4 years or something vote on the other one mabe it works out.

Then add the fact that majority votes.. and it is most likely that majority is dumb retard cavemen assholes... provided less then 1 percent is scientist. and also less then 30 percent are prostitutes.

corrected.. but on and off proes might not matter because etc xyz i dont give a shit.
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