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nmake



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I found a fitting forum for letting this out. Why is it that every time I download a crack by skidrow or if I download a trainer for game, I just know that once I run it, it will start playing some annoying music (I cover my ears every time I run such programs, I hate using the mute button)

skidrow is supposed to be a reverse engineering group, but I am tempted to rename them to a music composer group, because every time they release something, it has music in it. Is it possible, that these people have music running 24 hours on their developer computer, because if it runs 100% in their software I can't start to imagine how much it runs on their own computer.

What puts the cream on top of this is that they think I want to listen to their favorite song, what kind of an idiot thinks that I want and the whole world wants to listen to some guy's favorite song. This is narcissism.

I don't want to call skidrow a reverse engineering group anymore, to me they are music composers, not reverse engineers. If they one day release a piece of software that comes without some lame music playing at once, I will change my mind. But until then, they are professional music composers, not engineers.
Post 19 Jan 2013, 17:46
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Post 19 Jan 2013, 17:52
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nmake



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You are lucky to share their music taste.
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Post 19 Jan 2013, 18:14
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ManOfSteel



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The "Demoscene", "chiptuning", "music tracking" really don't ring any bell? Is this, seriously, the first time you encounter such keygens/cracks? Shocked

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demoscene#History
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nmake



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It wouldn't exactly be the first time, or else I wouldn't have made a thread like this, would I? Smile
Post 19 Jan 2013, 18:32
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f0dder



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nmake, I take it you weren't around in the C=64 or Amiga days?

These groups are cracking groups, they are release groups - they're not high-horse ivory-tower Reverse Engineering academics (don't let that fool you, though, some of them are pretty damn good, and some of the internal tools they develop are pretty damn sophisticated).

They're in it for fun, fame and friendship - and competition .(And then there's a few who are in it for the money or for the topsite leech slots). Many of them are proud of what they do, hence the cracktros. They're not doing it for your benefit, they're doing it because they can.

Be grateful that you even have access to these things. Before p2p networks (and especially bittorrent), you had to either put in some effort yourself, or at least had to know-people-who-knew-people. If anybody is to be blamed for narcissism, it's not the cracking groups, but all the people who feel entitled to their products...

And that said, I like their chiptunes and cracktros. If I'm not in the mood for it, I turn off sound before launching their fine products... or, in the case of long-running stuff with music, use the fine Windows mixer to simply disable music for that one process.
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nmake



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Trainers has got nothing to do with demo programming from the amiga days. Yes I had an amiga and a c64, and a sharp mz 721 too. And yes, I do create cracks and trainers myself, they ship without music and all feedback I get is "Your is the best" and I get compliments for how clean my tools are. I contribute myself.

Like you said, they are not doing it for me, they are doing it for themselves, and that is why I mention narcissism, because they are doing it for themselves, with a public twist to it. Thank you for confirming what I just stated. Laughing
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asmhack



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You see? No chip tune, no fun.
Going to mix some tunes now Very Happy
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if i have not mistaken, they bunddled with birus usually =)

And they wake up all your families members if you accidentally launch them after midnight.
Post 21 Jan 2013, 15:14
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sleepsleep wrote:
if i have not mistaken, they bunddled with birus usually =)

Not by their original programmers - but if you're leeching warez from some public place, there's obviously risk involved.

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Post 21 Jan 2013, 15:47
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sleepsleep caught the cold. He actually means "virus" with a "v". Laughing

Of course he's probably mistaken (to a certain degree at least). Antiviruses usually report false positives because cracks/patches behave exactly like appending viruses (they open a binary, change some opcodes, etc).
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sleepsleep
HaHaAnonymous wrote:
sleepsleep wrote:
if i have not mistaken, they bunddled with birus usually =)

What is a "birus"?


since b is near v, and i am quite sure not all keygen, cracker, trainer are virus based, and in order to not offend them (i can be sure too some of them are on this board)

So, birus is invented, =) something that near virus but not virus.
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sleepsleep wrote:
So, birus is invented, =) something that near virus but not virus.
Birrus brittanicus. Razz
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Oh... I misread your intention. I had guessed, incorrectly, that it was a deliberate effort to mix "Bug", with "Virus".

Then, upon further reflection, knowing of your profound internationalist spirit, I had imagined that your text here, had been intended as homage to Espana, where folks confound B with V, saying Beracruz, but writing Veracruz.

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I wonder why they make those awful GUIs.
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nmake



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OzzY, I agree with that. It seems like some of them forget what GUI means. I hope it means graphic user interface, a user interface is supposed to give the user an interface. Stacking a hundred buttons on a form is not a user interface, that is more like a wine-cellar, where you collect and store bottles of wine. This is something many crackers need to learn, the window or the form is not a collection platform for garbage-controls, it is supposed to be a user interface, whatever the meaning of user interface is to them. It should contain a minimalistic set of controls, not positioned for coolness, but for functionality and ease of use.

Some will say "That's boring" but little do they know that "coolness" expires, it doesn't last. Easy to use interface does never expire.
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I actually find that GUI very clean. A button to generate a code, a button to install the code, a button to remove the code... a logo, a close button, an "about" button.... and a very simplistic ad... The ad may be over kill depending on your perspective, but it makes money?

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it. Is it possible, that these people have music running 24 hours on their developer computer


Don't you? Shocked
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Coty wrote:
and a very simplistic ad... The ad may be over kill depending on your perspective, but it makes money?

Hah, I almost splurted my coffee all over - that was a good laugh Smile

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