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Dex4u



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Dex4u 08 Aug 2012, 15:08
i-don wrote:

If you want to promote making hobby firmware for ARM, make installation process as simple as possible to laymen users deploying the firmware/OS like on a PC. Then you could attract more interest in such projects.

What can be easier than sticking a kernel.img onto a fat32 formated sd card ?.

And ARM use less battery power than x86.
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blind_dragon



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blind_dragon 09 Aug 2012, 05:27
one down fall is memory with arm devices.
even cell phones have this problem..

there not up-gradable..

plus why could they not make a x86 pc boot from a sd card..
now bios supports usb booting.. .just add SD and make it boot
different formatted disks types..

M$ x-box arm:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/multimedia/display/20111107232643_Microsoft_Xbox_Loop_to_Feature_ARM_Processor_Windows_9_Core_Report.html

there is plenty of competition-
Mac
M$
Android
Linux
...
...

Arm does allow for more portable devices and low power..

This may be why windows 8 is loosing its start menu and starting to look more like a arm device rather than a windows menu

over all arm is cheaper to produce..
...
but for power I would choose a PC..
for portability would choose arm..

I do not think x86 will disappear for some time..

Would be a weird day to walk into an office and see arm computers ..
instead of PC..
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edfed



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edfed 12 Aug 2012, 10:56
yep, it's really sad that android devices cannot be used as live usb boot drive.
i've tested, it don't work.
if this feature comes to be reality, anyone can have his personal OS embeded and boot any pc in the wrold, just by connecting the usb wire at before startup... that's would be very fine.
and better would be to have a full PC compatible smartphone, able to run dos, dexos, windows, linux, etc... and then, have a duplicate of the rom just to provide a second bootable copy of the system for the usb boot on a pc, while the system is still runing on the phone. and have a sort of share zone to work on both... use the phone as a mouse/keyboard for the pc... etc...
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sleepsleep 12 Aug 2012, 18:57
edfed,
here, the asus padfone, tablet with phone i guess Very Happy
not the one like your concept, but roughly 10% maybe.

Quote:
While everyone might want a smartphone, a tablet, and a laptop, not everyone can afford all three. And if you’re going to buy all 3, why settle for anything but a seamless experience? The ASUS Padfone is my clear favorite for the best gadget of MWC 2012.


http://phandroid.com/2012/02/28/asus-padfone-hands-on-phone-tablet-laptop-collide-awesomely-video/
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blind_dragon



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blind_dragon 16 Aug 2012, 00:17
new open source game consel:

OUYA Open Source Home Console:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfgX032Jbvg&feature=related
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Enko



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Enko 16 Aug 2012, 01:13
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yep, it's really sad that android devices cannot be used as live usb boot drive.
i've tested, it don't work.

I had tried with a blackberry 9000 with a small linux distro installed on a sd card and it worked.
What I needed to do is click YES on the blackberry to activate the SD card while the pc was booting.
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baldr



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baldr 16 Aug 2012, 12:34
Enko,

That's really annoying: I'm physically attaching device to another, then it asks: "Are you sane? The other end of the wire is going to use me!!!" Wink

It's OK for wireless, but unbearable for USB/FireWire/whatever non-ethereal.
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revolution
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revolution 19 Aug 2012, 15:47
baldr wrote:
That's really annoying: I'm physically attaching device to another, then it asks: "Are you sane? The other end of the wire is going to use me!!!" Wink
It is a simple measure to stop unexpected virus-infected SD cards getting CPU time. Just like the stupidity of Windows autorun being on by default, it is one of the best ways to give unwanted code access to your system.
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