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revolution
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revolution
sleepsleep wrote:
revolution wrote:

circumference = 10 ; rational

what times pi equal to exact 10?
I showed that above.

10/pi ~= 3.1830988618379067153776752674502872406891929148091...
20 May 2020, 06:42
Furs

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Furs
FWIW, you can't have both the circumference and diameter rational. There's no way. Either of them can be rational, but the other one will be irrational.

You can, though, have both of them irrational:
Code:
```Diameter = e
Circumference = e * Pi    ```
20 May 2020, 13:01
revolution
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Furs wrote:
FWIW, you can't have both the circumference and diameter rational.
Yeah, I said the same previously. It is only mostly correct though, because as with a lot of mathematics, there is an exception. Both the diameter and the circumference can be rational when they are both zero. But perhaps it is debatable whether a circle of zero diameter is really a circle at all.

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20 May 2020, 13:09
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meeting 11am, not sure a good news or bad one,
20 May 2020, 19:46
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no sense of punctuality, i guess this is a bad journey,
11:06 am here, can't even see his shadow,

~

11:38 am, yeah, i will charge them extra i guess, still haven't see souls
21 May 2020, 03:38
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sleepsleep
i guess my issue is more on,

if you have a fixed product, the circumference, eg, 7cm,

how could you have a variably decimal number of diameter?

shouldn't it be just x.xxxxx555555555555555555555

idk why i choose 5, but it sounds more logical i guess,

or it could be a 9, x.xxxxx9999999999999999

the pi seems to affecting the diameter into variably decimal number, but how this diameter could get variably number when it was fixed inside the boundary of circle already,
21 May 2020, 03:53
revolution
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sleepsleep wrote:
i guess my issue is more on,

if you have a fixed product, the circumference, eg, 7cm,

how could you have a variably decimal number of diameter?

shouldn't it be just x.xxxxx555555555555555555555

idk why i choose 5, but it sounds more logical i guess,

or it could be a 9, x.xxxxx9999999999999999

the pi seems to affecting the diameter into variably decimal number, but how this diameter could get variably number when it was fixed inside the boundary of circle already,
The simple answer is that pi is irrational. It never repeats, ever. No matter what base you use. Base-2, base-10, etc.

Although I guess base-pi would be an exception, and then all integers >3 would be irrational in base-pi.

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21 May 2020, 06:33
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it seems like a good news, a discussion about nearly 2 hours,

they want me to describe and execute a plan for their future,
21 May 2020, 08:51
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sleepsleep
let say i draw a straight line, 7cm, but it never really 7cm exactly, it could be 7.000003029093428432y432984328943 and so on, or 6.99994939493959349929432949329432994329932 and so on,

every line that we try to measure is just irrational number,

the exact 7cm only exists in the realm of mathematics number,

is every irrational number simply a guesstimate?

maybe i should study how those pi numbers were calculated, lazy me
21 May 2020, 09:16
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Mathematics is not concerned with physical inaccuracies or limitations.
21 May 2020, 09:19
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https://subgraph.com/

Subgraph also includes an application firewall that will detect and alert the user to unexpected outbound connections by applications. The Subgraph application firewall is fairly unique to Linux-based operating systems and is an area of ongoing development.
24 May 2020, 16:35
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What is the minimum complexity that is Turing complete? Once we know this we can do computation along very small dimensions. The protocols themselves become communication sidebands.

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24 May 2020, 21:45
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today is a day to remembered,

i ran into a conflict with someone,

then i realized why this Earth is chaos, violent, etc,

because the only answer is, there always people who can't talk, can't discuss, can't communicate,

their only response was shouting, and intimidate others through violent physical activity,

that's the main reason why gun exists, because gun is there to protect people who are not violent,

these violent people were among us, and once triggered, they can kill you over tiny disputes,

and this actually open another Pandora box,

our relationship with others,

it might be, you are having a friendship with another person, but his father is violent type, or his brother,

we are navigating into dangerous water when the law enforcement is weak,

when there is no law, they are the law,

like inside Pakistan, India, honor killing,
25 May 2020, 14:51
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sleepsleep wrote:
that's the main reason why gun exists, because gun is there to protect people who are not violent,
Here I have to disagree with you.

Guns do not protect, they harm. A gun is a weapon. The only purpose of a gun is to inject lead pellets at high speed.

A shield or sturdy barrier is to protect.
25 May 2020, 14:58
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sleepsleep
maybe some kinda active protection?

if all chicken equipped with gun, maybe nobody dare to kill chicken for food,

surely, anyone still can use gun to force other to do something they unwilling, but this also include to force others not to force you doing something you unwilling,
25 May 2020, 15:54
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Language is cumbersome.

We are apart - a contradiction unto ourselves.

What are the unforeseen benefits of self-kindness?

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25 May 2020, 16:00
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sleepsleep
bitRAKE wrote:

self-kindness

idk bitRAKE,
there are all kinds of problem, right now, all kinds, from illegal immigrants, sicknesses, relationship, friendship, unsettled debt, loan, punishment, bankruptcy and etc,

most likely more and more are getting saved into new problems,

but what are we seeking? what is our focus?

what are we trying to attain in 36,500 days ?
25 May 2020, 17:21
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I'm not bothered by a lack of focus.

For me, it is enough to move forward.

Like walking through the forest - I can at best chose my next step.

I find with the weight of the world I can not move at all.

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25 May 2020, 17:46
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So, 100 years we will know more about everything happening every second.

Every instant we can feel other people dying, watch it happen, powerlessly.

We can taste any dish around the world and remain hungry.

What kind of human would survive this?

Nothing we can comprehend today.
25 May 2020, 18:03
Furs

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revolution wrote:
Here I have to disagree with you.

Guns do not protect, they harm. A gun is a weapon. The only purpose of a gun is to inject lead pellets at high speed.

A shield or sturdy barrier is to protect.
Sorry but as history and physics will tell you, weapons will always win against armor in the end.

So the best way to protect yourself is to make sure all threats are eliminated. Then you won't need a shield.
26 May 2020, 13:11
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